Evangelos Marinakis And Co

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Welcome Brucey, good first post.
That's what we want to see here...positivity.

[Greek Empire]

Marinakis and Vrentzos will take Nottingham Forest back to the Premier League.

Perhaps not this season but they will take you there.

I guarantee it 100%.

[Spangles]

That's the spirit !

[Dog and Bear]

It's amazing how the mood has changed in such a short space of time.

15 months ago we were almost dead, the club was hanging on by a thread.

Now we dare to dream again.

FOREST ARE BACK!

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Marinakis and Vrentzos will take Nottingham Forest back to the Premier League.

Perhaps not this season but they will take you there.

I guarantee it 100%.

I agree with you on this Greek Goddess.

I have no doubts in my mind.

It's not if but when.

[Mcforest]

It's amazing how the mood has changed in such a short space of time.

15 months ago we were almost dead, the club was hanging on by a thread.

Now we dare to dream again.

FOREST ARE BACK!

If it helps i could look for something to moan about like AK hair being to long or the lack of gossip / Tweets from the board.

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Marinakis and Vrentzos will take Nottingham Forest back to the Premier League.

Perhaps not this season but they will take you there.

I guarantee it 100%.

The thing is our starting point is much lower than others, who are also strengthening. So i just hope fans and those in power do not expect promotion this year, be nice to have but should not be expected.

[Duncan Mckenzie]

Regarding the owners...I can't think of one negative to say about them, nothing at all.

And for what it's woth, I too agree with what Greek Goddess said in her post above.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Marinakis and Vrentzos will take Nottingham Forest back to the Premier League.

Perhaps not this season but they will take you there.

I guarantee it 100%.

I agree with you on this Greek Goddess.

I have no doubts in my mind.

It's not if but when.

Yes.

When they took over the club, what they said and what they DID off the field convinced me Forest were going to be run professionally.  Just the lick of paint to the Forest Ground (which has been left to 'rot' and rust by previous owners which was a disgrace...) and the new technical areas/dugouts told me something.  The open letter was a frank admission of Forest's state ('life support') and the robust hiring of quality professionals to fill the off the field positions told me that Forest weren't going to be run as a corner shop but as a professional organisation.

The sponsorship deal (Forest's most lucrative ever?) tells us something else.

The January business was handled swiftly.  Deadwood out in what has been one of the most brutal transfer window culls of recent Forest times...and swift replacements of proven quality and experience.  Ten players being brought in in a tight turnaround of time.

That professionalism tests the new infrastructure and team and shows they can deliver 'in context' of what was a difficult time following that terrible Preston game.  They backed their man, Karanka...his judgement with actions.

Negotiating with agents who can access players quality Portuguese players and the know how to fund a transfer busting deal for one of them with the other on loan.

Forest are being linked with quality players in all positions.

But it was when they signed Karanka.  I thought this.  'We're going to get promoted.'

(I remember when 'Boro signed Karanka.  I felt at the time that Forest missed a trick...and kept a casual eye of their results and he turned them around.  Though he did start from a higher base than Forest who were in a mess when he arrived following a 'modest' transfer window last Summer. ie.  Murphy didn't play and Forest's youngsters looked lost.  I noted from the Fulham, Burton and QPR games that Forest were a different side.  Far more robust.  (Less of a glass chin even with players who included left overs from Dougie's back line. Successive miss mashes of previous squads from several other managers often including mediocre signings? Lichaj, Mancienne, Hobbs, Fox', Os' ((a makeshift LB...)) and a rookie keeper aren't a top 6 defensive line...as they proved with the deluge of sucker punch goals they conceded...even including the vulnerable and brittle play of the former manager. In short. Forest's squad needed a complete overhaul and it has been coming for a long, long time. The previous three seasons league positions told its own story.)  Spotting talent like Fig' and bringing in the experience of Pants made a large difference and that was only a partial band aid to a much needed bigger overhaul of an area, the defence, that lacked height, experience and quality AND leadership.)

I fully expect Karanka to overhaul each position in the front 11 and have quality in reserve. (Some of those players arrived in January, some of those players who arrived in January will be good enough squad players which is probably what Karanka was thinking in January. 'Good enough' now and 'better' in the Summer equals a squad, not just a team.)

We face the real prospect of a Forest team that has been built from successive transfer windows, had a step up in quality (more time to prepare for the Summer window) and a full pre-season of training with a proper pre-season fixture list.

When was the last time that actually happened at Forest? (Are we finally in danger of becoming organised?)

SA.

[Maltared]

This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

[Paplane]

This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

Think that's a tad optimistic. Just promotion out of the Champ is a major big ask this season IMO.

When you do get up, if you're successful in the prem then your players get picked off by the big clubs. It's impossible to compete with the big metropolitan clubs now. That's just the way football is.

(Leicester was a complete fluke by the way - they came good the year none of the other 'big' clubs turned up).

[Maltared]

This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

Think that's a tad optimistic. Just promotion out of the Champ is a major big ask this season IMO.

When you do get up, if you're successful in the prem then your players get picked off by the big clubs. It's impossible to compete with the big metropolitan clubs now. That's just the way football is.

(Leicester was a complete fluke by the way - they came good the year none of the other 'big' clubs turned up).

Were Chelsea bigger then Forest in the 90`s .... they became a big club because of the Abravomic money, and what about Man City? were they a big club before the Arabs? ... I still remember them in the equivalent of L1 ...look at them now .... I repeat it, we are Nottingham Forest, once we are in the Premiership, nothing can stop us from returning to our former glory...as long as Marinakis has the money...can someone remind me were the mighty Burnley finished the season? so its not fantasy... we just need investment, real investment...

[Strawberry Avenger]

This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

Well, if Leicester can do it...off the back of administration(?)

Forest have history of doing that and more.  With far, far less to work with financially.

'Things may be different now...' with the deck stacked in favour of the top 6.

But I remember when Forest used to hammer Chelsea 6-0 for breakfast and Chelsea had gates of what?  6k?  (I don't remember their crowds being as big or as plastic as they are now...)

I feel Forest have the off field leadership to get promoted and stay up and work on a Euro place.  The 'big boss' has that in Greece.  He'll want that here.  That augers well for the future...

SA.

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This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

Think that's a tad optimistic. Just promotion out of the Champ is a major big ask this season IMO.

When you do get up, if you're successful in the prem then your players get picked off by the big clubs. It's impossible to compete with the big metropolitan clubs now. That's just the way football is.

(Leicester was a complete fluke by the way - they came good the year none of the other 'big' clubs turned up).

Were Chelsea bigger then Forest in the 90`s .... they became a big club because of the Abravomic money, and what about Man City? were they a big club before the Arabs? ... I still remember them in the equivalent of L1 ...look at them now .... I repeat it, we are Nottingham Forest, once we are in the Premiership, nothing can stop us from returning to our former glory...as long as Marinakis has the money...can someone remind me were the mighty Burnley finished the season? so its not fantasy... we just need investment, real investment...

I'd agree with that.  Sound comment.  Every word of it.  (Though City always had good gates of 30k+ even in the '3rd division', even when Joe Royle was managing them in the lower tiers...  Chelsea had crap gates before they got taken over by Big Ab'. Both Chelsea and City were 'nothing' before the big money began rolling in...  City were the also rans of their more successful twin. I'm not fond of the Premiership. I remember the 1st division days when having a good manager made the difference and sure, gates gave L*verp**l an advantage...but it wasn't an insurmountable one as Brian Howard 'God' Clough proved. Emphatically...as Forest dumped 'pool out of the Euro' Cup. HA!)

SA.  :cool:

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This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

Think that's a tad optimistic. Just promotion out of the Champ is a major big ask this season IMO.

When you do get up, if you're successful in the prem then your players get picked off by the big clubs. It's impossible to compete with the big metropolitan clubs now. That's just the way football is.

(Leicester was a complete fluke by the way - they came good the year none of the other 'big' clubs turned up).

Leicester.  Fluke.  Yes.  They got 'real lucky...'  Remembers the 'administration' situation...  If any of the other big four had turned up they wouldn't have won it.  It's not like they were taking on Bob Paisley's L*verp**l who were in full flight.  Yet you get the media gushing a golden shower on Leicester as if it was unique.  It wasn't.  It's been done before and better by 'God' himself.

However, in addition to your other points.  I see what you're saying.  But the big four or 6 aren't haven't it all their own way these days.  Arsenal hanging on to top six as Burnely were pecking at their heels...Utd miles off City.  Tottenham crashing the top 6 for a few season now.  L*verp**l still can't win a title (oh dear me, tiny* violin...) and Chelsea seemed to be losing traction.  And their boss had his visa turned down.  'Poor them.'  Plastic is no longer fantastic.  As more billionaire/hundreds of millionaire owners get involved it will and has started to level out.  Teams like Bournemouth who used to be instantly relegated are getting up and staying up.

That's the least Forest should expect.

SA.

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This is Marinakis chance...a once in a lifetime opportunity...this is not greek football we are talking about here...
Promotion this season, a top four the following season and qualification to the Champions League... and he will be sitting with the likes of Abramovic, if Chelsea can do it , Forest can do it too...after all I dont think that they have a fan base bigger then ours...and they still play in an old ground in London .... they are ripe for a spell in the lower leagues like us and Villa...

The more I read this...the more I like it.  ;)

What they going to do with Ab' pulling out of the new stadium due his visa being turned down.  

Chelsea were nowhere near the title this time around.

Will the new Arsenal manager do any better than Wenger?

"“Success has become much more predictable today than it was during that period. It was only two foreign players, you had income shared equally because there was no television money and only the gates made the difference. When you played away you shared the gates so it was much more even on the chances to be successful and that’s why at that time the quality of these managers had more influence than it does today. Their work really made the difference.”

SA.