NFFC Financial Talk

[Red Dog]

There were rumours last week of a 4 point deduction on the basis we did not appeal it. With the Luton game now done and dusted, would you accept this? 1 point behind Luton, in the relegation zone with a better goal difference than Luton by 2 goals.

Accept nothing but a slapped wrist or suspended pts deduction I say. We appear to have done nothing but comply/work with the EPL on PSR. None of this ‘victims’, ‘corruption’ etc like Everton and also unlike them, any breach was rectified very quickly and not over a number of years and having had opportunity after opportunity to correct the position.

Excellent points and I am inclined to agree. Not sure this will be the result though.

[BomberBowyer]

There were rumours last week of a 4 point deduction on the basis we did not appeal it. With the Luton game now done and dusted, would you accept this? 1 point behind Luton, in the relegation zone with a better goal difference than Luton by 2 goals.

Accept nothing but a slapped wrist or suspended pts deduction I say. We appear to have done nothing but comply/work with the EPL on PSR. None of this ‘victims’, ‘corruption’ etc like Everton and also unlike them, any breach was rectified very quickly and not over a number of years and having had opportunity after opportunity to correct the position.

Excellent points and I am inclined to agree. Not sure this will be the result though.

No, sadly, probably won’t be. I just hope whatever it is that the club say f… it lets go out and play with the shackles off. I know we’ve had AFCON and injuries since but we seemed to play with a freedom in Nuno’s first few games which changed with the news re PSR.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Good question. If you do an average of points per game, Luton are 0.76, we are 0.86. Over 9 games they get 8 points, we get 9 so we finish level and goal difference decides it

OMG, I haven’t been too worried until you said that

[The reds]

Big day, hopefully any punishment is not too severe.

[DR Forest]

A points deduction is the starting point for punishment according to the Everton appeals panel.
‘Prior to mitigation and aggravation considerations’.

I can’t think of any aggravation factors, apart from the 8 week delayed sale of brennan; but I can think of many mitigation factors- spending limit 40% lower than the rest, no sporting advantage (due to the lower limit), change of rules in first year up so no opportunity to rectify under an agreed plan (like Everton precedent), constant comms with the PL throughout so tacit agreement from them in this, rumours of moving goalposts in association with this and political motivations, subsequently reduction of deficit this season evidencing sustainable management, complete removal of the deficit within 8 weeks of the breach, legal arguments about enforceability of the two EFL years following the Leicester decision; in breach for only one of the three years irrespective of that (rectified within 8 weeks) so 2/3rds reduction etc etc

Add in the growing discontent with the PL’s conduct generally, the proposed changes for next season proving these rules aren’t fit for purpose anyway (despite Masters categorically lying to the select committee there would be none for at least this season and next), and allegations that the changes have been rushed through because 10 clubs would be in breach next year if they were not, with the cherry on top of the Man City debacle, and I would suggest that any points deduction is unjust; any deduction over 2 points and I think EM goes to war.

[Red Dog]

Good question. If you do an average of points per game, Luton are 0.76, we are 0.86. Over 9 games they get 8 points, we get 9 so we finish level and goal difference decides it

OMG, I haven’t been too worried until you said that 

It's all ifs, buts and maybes at the moment but it couls be this scenario. Neither side has an easy run in but on paper I would rather have ours than theirs. However look how we are playing....

[MacAwoniyi Cheese]

A points deduction is the starting point for punishment according to the Everton appeals panel.
‘Prior to mitigation and aggravation considerations’.

I can’t think of any aggravation factors, apart from the 8 week delayed sale of brennan; but I can think of many mitigation factors- spending limit 40% lower than the rest, no sporting advantage (due to the lower limit), change of rules in first year up so no opportunity to rectify under an agreed plan (like Everton precedent), constant comms with the PL throughout so tacit agreement from them in this, rumours of moving goalposts in association with this and political motivations, subsequently reduction of deficit this season evidencing sustainable management, complete removal of the deficit within 8 weeks of the breach, legal arguments about enforceability of the two EFL years following the Leicester decision; in breach for only one of the three years irrespective of that (rectified within 8 weeks) so 2/3rds reduction etc etc

Add in the growing discontent with the PL’s conduct generally, the proposed changes for next season proving these rules aren’t fit for purpose anyway (despite Masters categorically lying to the select committee there would be none for at least this season and next), and allegations that the changes have been rushed through because 10 clubs would be in breach next year if they were not, with the cherry on top of the Man City debacle, and I would suggest that any points deduction is unjust; any deduction over 2 points and I think EM goes to war.

The only aggravating factors I can think of is the reckless spending in the first two transfer windows after we got promoted. There are reasons, etc. for that, but I feel that spending spree may be viewed dimly.

[Marinakis Red]

How can anybody determine reckless spending either when Chelsea, arsenal and man city have all spent over a 100m on a single player when we spent 150m on 30 plus players.

I'm not having the reckless spending scenario that the media are feeding us either. We've recouped 20% of that already for mangala too.

[The reds]

How can anybody determine reckless spending either when Chelsea, arsenal and man city have all spent over a 100m on a single player when we spent 150m on 30 plus players.

I'm not having the reckless spending scenario that the media are feeding us either. We've recouped 20% of that already for mangala too.

Johnson - 47.5m
Mangala - 10m loan - 20m Buy
Surridge - 5m
Ojeda - 2.5m
Samba - 5m
Scarpa - 4m
Laryea - 600k
Potentially 95m made since promotion.

[Fumanchew]

How long is it gonna take? Are the panel walking to nottingham to deliver their verdict, should be here 9am at the latest

[TrickySte]

4 points apparently.

[Sausage Roll]

That's what's being reported yeah.