21-08-2021, 11:38 AM
(21-08-2021, 11:17 AM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:(21-08-2021, 11:06 AM)SSM Wrote: Suspect EM will only make a change if he has someone already lined up. Seems to have been the case largely thus far under him.
Talk of Chris Wilder, Steve Cooper and John Terry at the game in the week. Obviously managers/coaches/staff takes games in a lot anyway. But interesting to see so many.
Not much room for sentiment from managers to one another in the game now.
Interesting choice of names. But without 'a little patience' they'll meet the same fate. Wilder took several seasons to get Sheff Utd to the Premier. And in the end, he met his fate with a change in owner.
The days of Clough being in place for two decades are over. In fact, Clough wouldn't have survived under Mari'. His brashness would have put Mari's nose out of join and the 1st season of his 2nd Division tenure for Forest would have seen him outside the top 6 and fired.
Steve Cooper did ok with Swansea. Yes. But they've had plan of succession and a philosophy for quite a while. So it's much easier for a 'good' manager to come and have 'some degree' of success with Swansea. He might not find it that easy at Forest when you're still waiting for players.
It's to do with getting off the field work to translate to on the field success. We're quite aware of what's been put in place. But without on the field patience, what's the point?
SA.
Wilder got Sheff Utd promoted to the Champ from L1 in his first season, a season in the champ where they were good and finished 10th in the first season back, and then promoted the next season. I'd not say it took him several seasons.
Yeah, Swansea have a philosophy, what it looks like we're trying to implement here, it has to start somewhere..
Cooper did a brilliant job with barely any money too. Using his knowledge of young talent and contacts to get exceptional loans. See: Guehi, Woodman, Brewster and Gallagher...
