(06-05-2026, 01:29 PM)DeesideRed Wrote:

(06-05-2026, 06:51 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

I'm certainly much more comfortable with this as an explanation for the drop off rather that the usual tripe. 

In terms of the summer signings, i'm not getting giddy off the back of 2 good games from Bakwa all season. If he can back it up with the assistance of this coaching team then we will of course all be delighted its not £35m wasted. Same goes for NDoye, McAtee etc. 

It also doesnt address the significant disruptive influence the appointment was and the lack of providing any real cover at full back or in goal.

(06-05-2026, 02:30 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(06-05-2026, 01:29 PM)DeesideRed Wrote:

(06-05-2026, 06:51 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

I'm certainly much more comfortable with this as an explanation for the drop off rather that the usual tripe. 

In terms of the summer signings, i'm not getting giddy off the back of 2 good games from Bakwa all season. If he can back it up with the assistance of this coaching team then we will of course all be delighted its not £35m wasted. Same goes for NDoye, McAtee etc. 

It also doesnt address the significant disruptive influence the appointment was and the lack of providing any real cover at full back or in goal.

Agree about Bakwa. He had a good start against Cucurella but the Spaniard soon got to grips with him I thought.

(06-05-2026, 03:54 PM)JollyLollyAussie Wrote: Has anybody taken note that the improvement in Forest started when CHO and N'Doye were injured and not played since, ment that we went 2 up front and the rest is history as they say. It will be very difficult for these 2 players to be part of the side going forward unless they adapt, not sure if they can.

(06-05-2026, 02:18 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Going back to Vitor, one thing I would say, I did not think this group were capable of playing the way they have played in the last month or so. Fenerbache away, Midtyland away, Sunderland away, Spurs away, Chelsea away, are just a level we have not reached under any previous manager this year, aside from that first half vs Brentford and that first half vs Betis.

The consistency has been impressive and the pressing and attacking threat we have offered is not something we offered too much even last year. Maybe you could say the last few games have just been a regression to the mean in terms of taking chances and Wood being back but I certainly didn't think we were capable of this. Particularly without Elanga and CHO. 9 games unbeaten first time since 2016 or something?

All the more impressive because we are in the middle of an intense relegation battle and having to rotate for the Europa league/play way more minutes than the other teams. The away game in Denmark and yesterday games stand out due to the changes and what we got out of previously Diakhaby level players like Bakwa, is incredible. Obviously not forgetting how well we played against Sunderland too. Can we please keep this ride going for 5 more games? Pretty please?

(06-05-2026, 04:06 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(06-05-2026, 02:18 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Going back to Vitor, one thing I would say, I did not think this group were capable of playing the way they have played in the last month or so. Fenerbache away, Midtyland away, Sunderland away, Spurs away, Chelsea away, are just a level we have not reached under any previous manager this year, aside from that first half vs Brentford and that first half vs Betis.

The consistency has been impressive and the pressing and attacking threat we have offered is not something we offered too much even last year. Maybe you could say the last few games have just been a regression to the mean in terms of taking chances and Wood being back but I certainly didn't think we were capable of this. Particularly without Elanga and CHO. 9 games unbeaten first time since 2016 or something?

All the more impressive because we are in the middle of an intense relegation battle and having to rotate for the Europa league/play way more minutes than the other teams. The away game in Denmark and yesterday games stand out due to the changes and what we got out of previously Diakhaby level players like Bakwa, is incredible. Obviously not forgetting how well we played against Sunderland too. Can we please keep this ride going for 5 more games? Pretty please?

Never in my wild dreams Wassy did I think that Vitor could do what he has done.

He has been sensational and a breath of fresh.