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RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - wassy04 - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 03:36 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: I wasn’t necessarily lauding Dane, more that he seemed to take a different approach to the scattergun recruiting, sacking of managers merry go round that we were stuck in for over 20 years.
We tried something different and we were promoted straight away. Was that the something different that worked or as Pap says did we just luck out with Cooper?
Again regarding recruitment I instinctively prefer the analytics approach simply because of the years of failure and millions wasted when we seemed to pull signings out of a hat. Problem is that Syrianos and co definitely didnt improve us. My hunch is that we just had the wrong people for the job but the idea overall was correct. Agree with those who say analytics dont show you everything by the way but it should part of it IMO.
Does all of that have anything to do with Murphy? No idea but he was part of the team that got us promoted. Even when he arrived he was clearly hinting Forest was just a stepping stone for him so best for all he leaves with our thanks.
Last season's success was down to the appointment and management of Cooper plus whoever suggested loaning Spence, Davies, Garner and Cook.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Salvatore Matrecano - 09-01-2023
Dont quite agree it was that simple Wassy. I think the whole atmosphere about the club was different last year, top to bottom it seemed like everyone was on the same page. Was that Dane, Cooper, Marinakis or a bit of all?
Was it also because someone else (cough) was no longer around?
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 09-01-2023
I think it's fair to say that everyone played a part in our success last year.
I have nothing against Dane and I wish him well for the future.
Some may not agree with my next comment but everything seem to click and fall into place the moment Milto walked through the door.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Georgecloney - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 03:43 PM)wassy04 Wrote:(09-01-2023, 03:36 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: I wasn’t necessarily lauding Dane, more that he seemed to take a different approach to the scattergun recruiting, sacking of managers merry go round that we were stuck in for over 20 years.
We tried something different and we were promoted straight away. Was that the something different that worked or as Pap says did we just luck out with Cooper?
Again regarding recruitment I instinctively prefer the analytics approach simply because of the years of failure and millions wasted when we seemed to pull signings out of a hat. Problem is that Syrianos and co definitely didnt improve us. My hunch is that we just had the wrong people for the job but the idea overall was correct. Agree with those who say analytics dont show you everything by the way but it should part of it IMO.
Does all of that have anything to do with Murphy? No idea but he was part of the team that got us promoted. Even when he arrived he was clearly hinting Forest was just a stepping stone for him so best for all he leaves with our thanks.
Last season's success was down to the appointment and management of Cooper plus whoever suggested loaning Spence, Davies, Garner and Cook.
Got to agree. Very sorry to see Murphy driven out. His short tenure saw us rise like phoenix from the ashes. People want to argue now who was responsible for appointing Cooper and the rise that followed. What we do know is the current regime have been in charge since 2017 and until Murphy and then Cooper arrived it achieved diddly squat. For ours sake let’s hope Forest rise up the table was only coincidental to Murphy being the CO.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - wassy04 - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 04:07 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Dont quite agree it was that simple Wassy. I think the whole atmosphere about the club was different last year, top to bottom it seemed like everyone was on the same page. Was that Dane, Cooper, Marinakis or a bit of all?
Was it also because someone else (cough) was no longer around?
Winning makes everything better though doesn't it.
I would certainly suggest the Jan window was the first (and only?) window where it's really felt like the manager/recruitment team were firmly in line and that was crucial to our success. Cook and Davis were key pieces to our success and even Layrea could've been if we ever needed him!
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 09-01-2023
Dane was not driven out.
He wanted to sign more player's that Cooper didn't agree with plus he wanted Cooper sacked after the leicester game.
Would you rather Dane have got his own way?
You were blaming Marinakis when rumours of Cooper being sacked came out but it was in fact Marinakis who saved Cooper and gave him a new contract.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Colnago - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 04:43 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Dane was not driven out.
He wanted to sign more player's that Cooper didn't agree with plus he wanted Cooper sacked after the leicester game.
Would you rather Dane have got his own way?
You were blaming Marinakis when rumours of Cooper being sacked came out but it was in fact Marinakis who saved Cooper and gave him a new contract.
Dane never wanted Cooper sacked
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 04:54 PM)Colnago Wrote:(09-01-2023, 04:43 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Dane was not driven out.
He wanted to sign more player's that Cooper didn't agree with plus he wanted Cooper sacked after the leicester game.
Would you rather Dane have got his own way?
You were blaming Marinakis when rumours of Cooper being sacked came out but it was in fact Marinakis who saved Cooper and gave him a new contract.
Dane never wanted Cooper sacked
We will have to agree to disagree.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Colnago - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 05:02 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:thumbs up(09-01-2023, 04:54 PM)Colnago Wrote:(09-01-2023, 04:43 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Dane was not driven out.
He wanted to sign more player's that Cooper didn't agree with plus he wanted Cooper sacked after the leicester game.
Would you rather Dane have got his own way?
You were blaming Marinakis when rumours of Cooper being sacked came out but it was in fact Marinakis who saved Cooper and gave him a new contract.
Dane never wanted Cooper sacked
We will have to agree to disagree.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Paplane - 09-01-2023
Regardless of who wanted who out, Cooper's position was in a perilous state after the Leicester game. The side were getting worse rather than better and from my eyes, Cooper didnt have a clue. We were wide open and getting stuffed every week. It was right for his position to be questioned, at that time.
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - wassy04 - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 06:32 PM)Paplane Wrote: Regardless of who wanted who out, Cooper's position was in a perilous state after the Leicester game. The side were getting worse rather than better and from my eyes, Cooper didnt have a clue. We were wide open and getting stuffed every week. It was right for his position to be questioned, at that time.
I disagree completely actually, was like 8 games into the season and we'd played Man City, Spurs, Newcastle in that run too. Cooper's job should never have been under threat so early and surely what has happened since then has proven that? It's pretty much exactly as you would've predicted, in that he eventually found a formation/lineup that was consistent and new players have begun to show improvement and that they are more settled.
How can you go from going up to sacking a guy 8 games later?! Crazy.
I said to someone the other day that the news that Cooper had signed a new deal felt as good as getting promoted when it came out.
You can be critical of his methods and odd selections (although Taiwo out side doesn't look so stupid now!) however that doesn't mean the need to get rid of him.
According to some sources it appears Dane was in your camp!
RE: New CEO Is Dane Murphy - Marinakis Red - 09-01-2023
(09-01-2023, 02:40 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Surprised nobody has asked when Vrentzos is coming back...
He is back sniff, just sat in Hooters with him and the leader of Rushcliffe Borough Council. He loves all you can eat wings