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RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Hyperkoi - 05-02-2019
Our next few games are very hard, under Karanka I would not have been worried as we played well against teams that attacked us. However, Martin has changed our style so much so quickly that I fear that we will be overwhelmed by these attacking sides and it could be a very tough few weeks. Not sure what Marinakis will do if we get no points from the next four or five games.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - wassy04 - 05-02-2019
I think the optimism stemmed largely and legitimately from the fact we were 5th, on good form and given the amount of new signings, I think we expected to kick on as the players got to know each other/the league better.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - optimistic_red - 05-02-2019
Hopefully this thread will die for a while, and we keep the current manager and forget about the (grass is always greener) next one!
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - wassy04 - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 01:27 PM)NG3 Wrote:(05-02-2019, 12:59 PM)wassy04 Wrote: I think the optimism stemmed largely and legitimately from the fact we were 5th, on good form and given the amount of new signings, I think we expected to kick on as the players got to know each other/the league better.
That's what I'm saying about the rose-tinted element, we were 5th on 3 match days, for the other 27 we haven't been.
Last season we were 5th on 1 match day, 4th on another & our peak position was 3rd.
The season before that we had 1 week at 4th
Two season before that we had 1 week at 5th, 2 at 3rd, 3 at 2nd, 6 at 1st
As for good form, this season win rate was a touch over 30%, the last managers win rate was 40%, the 1 before 30%, the 1 before that just over 30%, as was the 1 before that.
This season our best run was 2 consecutive wins, achieved once, last season it was 2 consecutive wins, achieved 3 times, the season before that we achieved 3 consecutive wins once.
PPG (points per game) multiplied by 46 games, & rounded to the nearest whole number, to represent a full season show the last manager on 60pts, & the one before on 60pts.
That's what I meant when I said that this season wasn't actually that dissimilar to many of the previous ones. right down to our annual winter slump in form, where we won only 1 game in the previous managers last 6 matches, netting a mere 5pts.
Fans chose to believe it was different, that we were flying high & challenging, but reality said different.
Hopefully now though we can find a way to break the cycle & push on, & I say that both out of hope, & also to try & get the thread back on topic as it's about thoughts on the next manager, not thoughts on previous ones, we have another thread for that.
Ha you’re being a bit cheeky there. Given we were in top 6 in the previous in the first few weeks as opposed to this season when it was in December. That’s a pretty major difference
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 05-02-2019
Iberian, 40-55 years old, employed as a "head coach" not a "manager".
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 07:53 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: Iberian, 40-55 years old, employed as a "head coach" not a "manager".
That most definitely fits with your average Marinakis manager.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 08:17 PM)NG3 Wrote:(05-02-2019, 07:53 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: Iberian, 40-55 years old, employed as a "head coach" not a "manager".
Why Iberian?
I mean is that a desire, or prediction?
Personally I'm not bothered about nationality, but if it's a prediction I'd say there's a reasonable chance, although, outside of Pep there does seem to be a bit of a waning in the Iberian star, these things tend to go in cycles.
I'm not massively bothered either, just a prediction. As Sniffer says it fits the typical Marinakis mould.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 09:14 PM)NG3 Wrote: With you, me & Sniffer all agreeing there's a high chance of that I now look forward to welcoming our next manager, the 84 year old Cameroonian, M'Zulus Alott & his 12 year old Chinese assistant Wi Go Sune
Nothing would surprise me...
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 05-02-2019
I will say at this stage I'm more interested in who is making the shortlist and the decisions on who the next head coach/ manager will be.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 09:47 PM)NG3 Wrote:(05-02-2019, 09:35 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: I will say at this stage I'm more interested in who is making the shortlist and the decisions on who the next head coach/ manager will be.
I agree with that. We can talk about managers & players all day long but I tend to think a lot of our footballing problems come from a level higher than that.
The reason I hope the rumour about Karembeu coming over in the summer to run the football side of things at director level is true.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStanleyStone - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 09:35 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: I will say at this stage I'm more interested in who is making the shortlist and the decisions on who the next head coach/ manager will be.
I seem to remember suggesting Nathan Jones and Paul Hart to you a year ago, think that would of been an excellent appointment, just for the style and footballing philosophy and knowledge of the lower leagues
i'm happy to stick with M o N and R K because even if we lose and maybe lose quite a lot it would probably come good eventually hopefully higher than anytime under AK
if Stuart Pearce had lost 100 games on the trot I would of supported him also, though not nowhere near as successful at club management, I just like the guy, I sort of think he could of become a mega supertastic superhuman legend here
Can't believe how AK wasn't sacked last season, if only he had been sacked a year ago and N J and P H had had a summer and £30m to spend, they must know a few gems/tryers/good sorts in the lower leagues so we would of got a lot more mileage out of the money
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 05-02-2019
(05-02-2019, 10:23 PM)NG3 Wrote:(05-02-2019, 09:52 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote:(05-02-2019, 09:47 PM)NG3 Wrote:(05-02-2019, 09:35 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: I will say at this stage I'm more interested in who is making the shortlist and the decisions on who the next head coach/ manager will be.
I agree with that. We can talk about managers & players all day long but I tend to think a lot of our footballing problems come from a level higher than that.
The reason I hope the rumour about Karembeu coming over in the summer to run the football side of things at director level is true.
I'd certainly be open to that. Top football background & experience in this country.
Yep and also, perhaps most crucially, trusted by EM.