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RE: Stevie Cooper - Paplane - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 08:53 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(06-12-2023, 10:21 PM)Widdow Wrote: Problem is, our owners have only ever picked one good manager.
Is that really true though?
Lamouchi gave us some great moments and had us believing until covid f****d it up.
Karanka and Hughton both had promotion on their CV's.
I know it didn't work out for them but it doesn't make them bad managers. Hughton is very much partly responsible for where Brighton are now, he set the ball rolling for them.
Yep, I thought Sabri did very well. And the Hughton appointment was lauded within the game, he just didn't turn up.
Appointing a prem manager is a completely different ball game. Lots of top quality coaches will be wanting to have a crack.
RE: Stevie Cooper - Paplane - 07-12-2023
And despite his reputation, generally, Marinakis has been very patient with the managers he's appointed when things arent going well.
RE: Stevie Cooper - nffc93 - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 09:07 AM)Paplane Wrote: And despite his reputation, generally, Marinakis has been very patient with the managers he's appointed when things arent going well.
Yeah. He can't really be questioned for what he may or may not do next
RE: Stevie Cooper - Mist From The Trent - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 07:06 AM)northeastred Wrote: What has happened though, your star players who signed because of you, now blank you and ignore you? Mgw and hudson
Playing him out of position all season, maybe? God knows. The players were disgraceful yesterday though.
RE: Stevie Cooper - BomberBowyer - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 09:29 AM)ItMist From The Trent Wrote:(07-12-2023, 07:06 AM)northeastred Wrote: What has happened though, your star players who signed because of you, now blank you and ignore you? Mgw and hudson
Playing him out of position all season, maybe? God knows. The players were disgraceful yesterday though.
After the final whistle last night Cooper was walking over to the fans and gesturing to the players to follow him but likes of MGW appeared to ignore him at first and more interested in talking to Cairney and other mates on Fulham team. They did go across eventually.
RE: Stevie Cooper - McDurban - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 08:54 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:(07-12-2023, 07:06 AM)northeastred Wrote: What has happened though, your star players who signed because of you, now blank you and ignore you? Mgw and hudson
Hudson Odoi is an appalling player.
Explains the 3 million price tag.
RE: Stevie Cooper - nffc93 - 07-12-2023
Think we all got sucked in by CHO when he signed but Sangare. My word. Absolutely atrocious.
RE: Stevie Cooper - wassy04 - 07-12-2023
The mystery of this season will always be why did we recruit a bunch of players to play 3 CBs and wingbacks, then change formation immediately after the window closed.
Even without the injuries to CHO and Taiwo, we were too short on players to play 433 or 4231. If we wanted to play 4231 we literally had CHO, Elanga and MGW and that's it, if one of them was out we had no other options to replace them. Same applies to 433 except it means MGW has to play out wide.
And to top it off, we seemed to have found a decent setup in the wingbacks formation that was producing competent, albeit not the most attacking, performances. This was against the top sides too away from home, just a polar opposite to last year. I just don't get it.
RE: Stevie Cooper - Shawoddyred - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 11:38 AM)wassy04 Wrote: The mystery of this season will always be why did we recruit a bunch of players to play 3 CBs and wingbacks, then change formation immediately after the window closed.
Even without the injuries to CHO and Taiwo, we were too short on players to play 433 or 4231. If we wanted to play 4231 we literally had CHO, Elanga and MGW and that's it, if one of them was out we had no other options to replace them. Same applies to 433 except it means MGW has to play out wide.
And to top it off, we seemed to have found a decent setup in the wingbacks formation that was producing competent, albeit not the most attacking, performances. This was against the top sides too away from home, just a polar opposite to last year. I just don't get it.
Agreed. I honestly thought that after Everton performance he would revert to a back 3 last night....seemed a perfect opportunity to go back to the more successful approach.
Also, I actually think a back 3 can be a very attacking formation, we could evolve through that rather than go to a 4 at the back.
RE: Stevie Cooper - DeesideRed - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 11:15 AM)nffc93 Wrote: Think we all got sucked in by CHO when he signed but Sangare. My word. Absolutely atrocious.
Exactly, a £3-5m gamble is paletable but my word at £35m ...
RE: Stevie Cooper - wassy04 - 07-12-2023
(07-12-2023, 11:41 AM)Shawoddyred Wrote:(07-12-2023, 11:38 AM)wassy04 Wrote: The mystery of this season will always be why did we recruit a bunch of players to play 3 CBs and wingbacks, then change formation immediately after the window closed.
Even without the injuries to CHO and Taiwo, we were too short on players to play 433 or 4231. If we wanted to play 4231 we literally had CHO, Elanga and MGW and that's it, if one of them was out we had no other options to replace them. Same applies to 433 except it means MGW has to play out wide.
And to top it off, we seemed to have found a decent setup in the wingbacks formation that was producing competent, albeit not the most attacking, performances. This was against the top sides too away from home, just a polar opposite to last year. I just don't get it.
Agreed. I honestly thought that after Everton performance he would revert to a back 3 last night....seemed a perfect opportunity to go back to the more successful approach.
Also, I actually think a back 3 can be a very attacking formation, we could evolve through that rather than go to a 4 at the back.
It was pretty attacking in the championship! Although part of that was that pretty much every team played it that year and also we had a marauding right wing back.
RE: Stevie Cooper - DeesideRed - 07-12-2023
As we've said many times, squad setup for it, its just deemed that 4-3-3 is more attacking vs so called 'lesser' teams. Also dont think it help Murillo, who is, lets be honest, still very young.
the interesting thing would be whether is a 5-3-2 allowing MGW off a striker or the old 5-2-3 which still has the same MGW issue as last year