(16-09-2018, 11:43 AM)woody Wrote:

(16-09-2018, 10:07 AM)Duncan Mckenzie Wrote:

(16-09-2018, 01:07 AM)Sunny Wrote: Last season is largely irrelevant. EM was happy to invest in AK for this season so it’s 7 games (and 2 successful cup games). Our away form is pretty good. He needs to get more wins at home, starting on Wednesday.

We haven't won away for 10 games.

I would say that our away form is pretty poor.

He inherited some of those defeat Duncan. We are only defeated once in the league this season but that can also be as misleading as your quote. If the performances begin to come, then I suggest that the points will follow and as I said earlier, two decent performance from three suggest we are about to turn the corner and we still have some promising players to come in.

(16-09-2018, 11:53 AM)Username Wrote: Similarly the same type of form under Billy was deemed a success.

(16-09-2018, 12:25 PM)woody Wrote: Its undeniable that Karanka inherited a shite team, shite squad and shite club. God only knows what attracted him to us because under Fawaz, after Doughty and all the way back to Wray and Scholar it was a pathetically run club.  We were dross of the pitch as well as on it. Karaknka inherited a club not on its knees but on its back taking its last breath. He tried to breath life back into during the window and we escaped relegation again. The club was still crap at the end of last season. Marinakis hadnt had time to sort thing out by then and neither had Karanka. In that resepct, I believe he has inherited some results of the previous owners and managers.

I would bet my house on us not going down this season. Any takers on that? But you must bet your house against me if we stay up. Didnt think anybody would take me that but perhaps a few would have last season or the season before that. In fact, I wouldnt have offered the bet. See we arent going down this season and we will most likely finish in the top ten. Im happy with that sort of progress and furthermore, Im convinced we are going to see improved performances. I would like to think in the next few home games we are going to have a much improved and optimistic feel on here.

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Nottingham Post fan quotes:

Gareth D: “An away point and being the better side against a team relegated from the PL who will be around the top-six is not a bad result, especially with two very winnable home games coming up”.

Rory Lomax: “Just watched the highlights...Ben Osborn has to be taking one of them chances!”

Martin Day: “Cracking result away from home. Dominated the ball and had the better chances. Roll on Wednesday under the lights and on TV."

Scott Simpson: “If you can’t win don’t lose, another good away point COYR”

Steve: “Janko played well today, Osborn should have scored a few, Hef and Fox looked solid.”

Mr Ridley: “A point and a clean sheet against Swansea and by the sounds of it much improved, nothing to moan about!”

(16-09-2018, 01:30 PM)stirred Wrote: Karanka has consistently underachieved given the players at his disposal. Yesterday was a continuation of underachievement.

I don’t understand these comments about a draw being a good result along the lines of because it was against ‘a recent PL team’.

Swansea have all sorts of shenanigans going on behind the scenes, with legal action by the Supporters Trust against their owners, who are reviled by the fans for asset-stripping, and a lack of investment in the playing squad.

They were without a bunch of key players including their captain in the middle of the park (Fer), Montero, Martin Olsson, as well as Bony still missing.  Their forums (before the match) referred to their squad as ‘thread-bare’, ‘young and inexperienced’ and so on.

Swansea the football club were relegated last season. That team wasn’t. It isn’t remotely the team that even got relegated last season.

And let’s put the ‘against a team in the play-offs’ into perspective. They won their first couple of matches, but, without their key players, reality is setting in. It was 1 win in 5 before yday – and that was a 10 man mugging of Millwall created by an outstanding late sub performance by Montero on the wing, one of their important players out injured.

Going from being abject to being better than a weak team but failing to score is hardly progress. The abject performance is underachievement and the draw y'day is underachievement.

Look at their available squad and look at ours. And take a second look, thinking how good the players actually could perform, not how good Karanka has them playing in turgid draws. Pick the best team. Pick the best bench. How many of those players would be from each club?

The truth is, yesterday was a glaring opportunity for 3 points. The draw was a failure. Again.

(16-09-2018, 01:40 PM)NG3 Wrote:

(16-09-2018, 11:51 AM)Duncan Mckenzie Wrote: Lets stick to facts instead of dressing things up.

100% & I hope we are not going to go the way of some other forums or social media where there are bitter, unnecessary & unpleasant arguments entirely fuelled by people try to bullshit each other. There really is no need for it & it injects massive toxicity into the fan base.

Anyone who engages in such activity please note that bullshitting or spinning on the internet, to try to win an argument doesn't in reality assist the club in any way, shape, or form, it just annoys people.

(16-09-2018, 01:46 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:

(16-09-2018, 01:30 PM)stirred Wrote: Karanka has consistently underachieved given the players at his disposal. Yesterday was a continuation of underachievement.

I don’t understand these comments about a draw being a good result along the lines of because it was against ‘a recent PL team’.

Swansea have all sorts of shenanigans going on behind the scenes, with legal action by the Supporters Trust against their owners, who are reviled by the fans for asset-stripping, and a lack of investment in the playing squad.

They were without a bunch of key players including their captain in the middle of the park (Fer), Montero, Martin Olsson, as well as Bony still missing.  Their forums (before the match) referred to their squad as ‘thread-bare’, ‘young and inexperienced’ and so on.

Swansea the football club were relegated last season. That team wasn’t. It isn’t remotely the team that even got relegated last season.

And let’s put the ‘against a team in the play-offs’ into perspective. They won their first couple of matches, but, without their key players, reality is setting in. It was 1 win in 5 before yday – and that was a 10 man mugging of Millwall created by an outstanding late sub performance by Montero on the wing, one of their important players out injured.

Going from being abject to being better than a weak team but failing to score is hardly progress. The abject performance is underachievement and the draw y'day is underachievement.

Look at their available squad and look at ours. And take a second look, thinking how good the players actually could perform, not how good Karanka has them playing in turgid draws. Pick the best team. Pick the best bench. How many of those players would be from each club?

The truth is, yesterday was a glaring opportunity for 3 points. The draw was a failure. Again.

Good post pal.

It's a plus 1 rating from me.

(16-09-2018, 01:30 PM)stirred Wrote: Karanka has consistently underachieved given the players at his disposal. Yesterday was a continuation of underachievement.

I don’t understand these comments about a draw being a good result along the lines of because it was against ‘a recent PL team’.

Swansea have all sorts of shenanigans going on behind the scenes, with legal action by the Supporters Trust against their owners, who are reviled by the fans for asset-stripping, and a lack of investment in the playing squad.

They were without a bunch of key players including their captain in the middle of the park (Fer), Montero, Martin Olsson, as well as Bony still missing.  Their forums (before the match) referred to their squad as ‘thread-bare’, ‘young and inexperienced’ and so on.

Swansea the football club were relegated last season. That team wasn’t. It isn’t remotely the team that even got relegated last season.

And let’s put the ‘against a team in the play-offs’ into perspective. They won their first couple of matches, but, without their key players, reality is setting in. It was 1 win in 5 before yday – and that was a 10 man mugging of Millwall created by an outstanding late sub performance by Montero on the wing, one of their important players out injured.

Going from being abject to being better than a weak team but failing to score is hardly progress. The abject performance is underachievement and the draw y'day is underachievement.

Look at their available squad and look at ours. And take a second look, thinking how good the players actually could perform, not how good Karanka has them playing in turgid draws. Pick the best team. Pick the best bench. How many of those players would be from each club?

The truth is, yesterday was a glaring opportunity for 3 points. The draw was a failure. Again.

(16-09-2018, 08:33 PM)NG3 Wrote: Win these 2 easy ones at home now