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RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Dog and Bear - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 08:59 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: What is all this no striker stuff?

We had two sitting on the bench scratching their balls.

Why haven't we found a way to get the best out of Wood or Origi.

Why haven't we found a way to get MGW firing and don't get me started on free kicks and corners because they are pathetic.

So many things we can improve on with or without Taiwo but I suppose not having Taiwo is just a lazy and easy excuse to use.

Spot on Sniff.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Salvatore Matrecano - 16-12-2023

The MGw bit I agree with particularly around set pieces and I would like to see him playing further forward and taking chances as he did for Sheff Utd.
Wood and Origi…..hmm…. Not convinced but at least get more bodies in the box for Wood to play to his strengths.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Plymouth red - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 09:08 AM)Dog and Bear Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 08:59 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: What is all this no striker stuff?

We had two sitting on the bench scratching their balls.

Why haven't we found a way to get the best out of Wood or Origi.

Why haven't we found a way to get MGW firing and don't get me started on free kicks and corners because they are pathetic.

So many things we can improve on with or without Taiwo but I suppose not having Taiwo is just a lazy and easy excuse to use.

Spot on Sniff.

I agree that we should be getting more out of what we have - particularly mgw who seems to have let his success in the summer go to his head. However, as for the two strikers on the bench. Neither have shown they deserve to start. Now you could point finger at systems and coaching but regardless, the players themselves need to look like they give a shite.

Plus, dismissing taiwo's injury as a lazy excuse is underestimating how pivotal a player of that nature is to Cooper's style of play. We saw how transformative we were in the championship with Davis (when he was fit) and the same with taiwo. It's not just goals he brings. He is nightmare for defenders, creates space for others and holds up play. Without him at the end of last season we are already in the championship.

The biggest mistake was not finding a player of his nature to step in when taiwo is injured. 

Now, you can criticise the fact that cooper has one style of play... and beyond that his limitations are clear. He has tried to change formation; he has tried to play more possession based. Neither has worked that effectively But I would not be dismissive of how significant taiwo's injury is. For me it comes down to a manager who has limitations tactically combined with scattergun recruitment - especially up front.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023

Anyone with half a brain could have told our coach that Taiwo will not play in 50% of our games this season so why are we now so reliant on him? It should never have come to this point.

If our coach doesn't think Wood is good enough or if he cannot find the way to get the best out of him then why did he splurge 15M quid on him in January.

We need answers.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - nffc93 - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 09:39 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Anyone with half a brain could have told our coach that Taiwo will not play in 50% of our games this season so why are we now so reliant on him? It should never have come to this point.

If our coach doesn't think Wood is good enough or if he cannot find the way to get the best out of him then why did he splurge 15M quid on him in January.

We need answers.

We also need answers about why, between about 4 or 5 parties did we not manage to get a decent striker to cover for Awoniyi? That's not just on Cooper. It's on many others.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 09:44 AM)nffc93 Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 09:39 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Anyone with half a brain could have told our coach that Taiwo will not play in 50% of our games this season so why are we now so reliant on him? It should never have come to this point.

If our coach doesn't think Wood is good enough or if he cannot find the way to get the best out of him then why did he splurge 15M quid on him in January.

We need answers.

We also need answers about why, between about 4 or 5 parties did we not manage to get a decent striker to cover for Awoniyi? That's not just on Cooper. It's on many others.

Well I am sure the question would have been asked 'Steve are you happy with your striker options'?

I can only guess what the answer must have been.

If he is not going to play Wood or if he don't think he's up to it then why is he here?

Reminds me of Ayew last season who was another striker who seemed to be here for no apparent reason other than our coach wanted him.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Marinakis Red - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 10:03 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 09:44 AM)nffc93 Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 09:39 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Anyone with half a brain could have told our coach that Taiwo will not play in 50% of our games this season so why are we now so reliant on him? It should never have come to this point.

If our coach doesn't think Wood is good enough or if he cannot find the way to get the best out of him then why did he splurge 15M quid on him in January.

We need answers.

We also need answers about why, between about 4 or 5 parties did we not manage to get a decent striker to cover for Awoniyi? That's not just on Cooper. It's on many others.

Well I am sure the question would have been asked 'Steve are you happy with your striker options'?

I can only guess what the answer must have been.

If he is not going to play Wood or if he don't think he's up to it then why is he here?

Reminds me of Ayew last season who was another striker who seemed to be here for no apparent reason other than our coach wanted him.

The time has come for the coach to go.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Username - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 12:42 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 12:37 AM)Username Wrote: It just isn’t working with MGW, he simply isn’t performing at a level that his price demands, he is the real issue for us.

And your alternative is….?

That’s down to others to solve. 

Danilo and Sangare can play much higher. 

Wood gets lots of stick but he needs the right service.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - DeesideRed - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 12:54 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 12:46 AM)Shawoddyred Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 12:37 AM)Username Wrote: It just isn’t working with MGW, he simply isn’t performing at a level that his price demands, he is the real issue for us.

I thought he did OK tonight. 

I do wonder where that guy that scored loads of goals in the championship has gone though. He just seemed much more incisive that season before we bought him.

Inexplicable he chose to pass with a clear sight of goal 2nd half. Loss of confidence?

Perhaps, but you can't have you're record signing not producing anything in attack other than a penalty this season


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - DeesideRed - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 08:59 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: What is all this no striker stuff?

We had two sitting on the bench scratching their balls.

Why haven't we found a way to get the best out of Wood or Origi.

Why haven't we found a way to get MGW firing and don't get me started on free kicks and corners because they are pathetic.

So many things we can improve on with or without Taiwo but I suppose not having Taiwo is just a lazy and easy excuse to use.

Origi has always stolen a career, couldn't even produce in Italy. Wood was signed as an able backup, a role he's fulfilled for years. Why we didn't sign Iheanacho idk, binning Dennis was mental given our lack of options and as others have said, I'd have surridge back tomorrow compared to that Belgian duffer


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023

(16-12-2023, 11:09 AM)DeesideRed Wrote:
(16-12-2023, 08:59 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: What is all this no striker stuff?

We had two sitting on the bench scratching their balls.

Why haven't we found a way to get the best out of Wood or Origi.

Why haven't we found a way to get MGW firing and don't get me started on free kicks and corners because they are pathetic.

So many things we can improve on with or without Taiwo but I suppose not having Taiwo is just a lazy and easy excuse to use.

Origi has always stolen a career, couldn't even produce in Italy. Wood was signed as an able backup, a role he's fulfilled for years. Why we didn't sign Iheanacho idk, binning Dennis was mental given our lack of options and as others have said, I'd have surridge back tomorrow compared to that Belgian duffer

What would be the point of having Dennis and Surridge back?

Our manager didn't pick them when they were here.


RE: Nottingham Forest - Tottenham - DeesideRed - 16-12-2023

The point is releasing them has left us criminally short up top.

That's on the recruitment team and the management