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RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - PsychoStanleyStone - 25-07-2020
José Miguel González Martín del Campo Impressive name, career, generally all round experience
Olympiacos extremely impressive 3 league titles and only 1 point off the top when sacked?
Win 44%
I don't know why I mention this but his overall gd is plus 145, this latter stat could help us sleep at night
I know it is probably impossible to discern but I think I am permanently and severely damaged after Sabri's last few games.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - stirred - 25-07-2020
(25-07-2020, 10:34 AM)wassy04 Wrote:(24-07-2020, 06:54 PM)Paplane Wrote: A contract's a contract. The efl wouldn't be able to amend the legal terms between two parties who entered into the contract, unless the government changed the law which isnt going to happen. Any wage cap will surely only be able to apply to new contracts entered into after the implementation date. And then some player or the pfa will challenge it through the courts, like Bosman did.
The way its going to work allegedly is that any contract signed before this season will count as a 10k a week deal. So until players begin to sign new deals it won't have a huge impact.
Some clubs have 70-80m wage bills though so they will be greater impacted. This is a good thing for Forest and the EFL if it happens. It should allow greater competition, make the parachute payments less of an issue and actually stop all teams making ridiculous losses.
The prem won't be happy but I'm not sure all the champ clubs making huge losses is really in their best interest either
Aye, there would have to be some leeway for existing contracts. So how would this play out? My cynical take on it:
When making signings, Premier league clubs would have to get players to agree to huge salary reductions upon relegation. It's becoming the norm I gather to have hefty reductions, but this would magnify it.
Watford are apparently at risk of a firesale of players under existing rules as some of their biggest earners do not have salary reduction clauses in place. I assume they tried to attract players such as Deolefeu and the like who would not accept reduction clauses.
So these new rules will make it harder for clubs with a chance of relegation making ambitious signings. Alternatively if they gamble and sign players without a salary reduction clause, it will be a firesale in the summer as everyone will know they have to offload them. Win-win for the rich clubs already in the money seats.
Currently parachute payments primarily subsidize wages. In future they may have to be used to offset lossess on player registrations as the club is forced to conduct a firesale.
And if the club played it frugally, like Norwich have done this year, they have a parachute payment they can spend on transfers - no doubt with a hefty 'signing-on fee' - not wages to blow away the competition in the Championship.
And what about clubs who get promoted? Championship clubs will generally be paying lower wages, which means they won't attract as much talent from overseas. The latest figures I saw, we're currently the highest paying league outside of the top 5 European leagues, i.e. more than Portugal, Holland, Turkey etc. The Championship standard will be expected to go down. So it will be harder for them to compete when they go up.
So basically, this proposed measure reduces mobility up and down the league. Exactly what the clubs with the money want.
The only way to really solve the current situation is to fundamentally reduce the gulf in revenue between leagues.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - JWJW - 25-07-2020
The best manager for NFFC now is a manager who is bitterly disappointed, who looks at every mistake he ever made and learns from it, a manager with a point to prove next season.
That manager is Sabri.
There will be no more motivated manager on earth to get NFFC promoted next season than Sabri.
LEEDS collapse end of last season had LOADS of people calling for Bielsa to be sacked. He was not good, bottled it, sack him, get Warnock or Pearson in - the normal shite you hear.
Leeds won the league this year sticking with the man who was bitterly disappointed end of last season.
We need to stick with our bitterly disappointed manager with a point to prove this coming new season.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Reds73 - 26-07-2020
(25-07-2020, 11:44 PM)JWJW Wrote: The best manager for NFFC now is a manager who is bitterly disappointed, who looks at every mistake he ever made and learns from it, a manager with a point to prove next season.
That manager is Sabri.
There will be no more motivated manager on earth to get NFFC promoted next season than Sabri.
LEEDS collapse end of last season had LOADS of people calling for Bielsa to be sacked. He was not good, bottled it, sack him, get Warnock or Pearson in - the normal shite you hear.
Leeds won the league this year sticking with the man who was bitterly disappointed end of last season.
We need to stick with our bitterly disappointed manager with a point to prove this coming new season.
Let’s hope the players still believe in him, because that is the crux of it.
his messages to the players won’t alter much, so hopefully they still trust his methods
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Maltared - 26-07-2020
(25-07-2020, 11:44 PM)JWJW Wrote: The best manager for NFFC now is a manager who is bitterly disappointed, who looks at every mistake he ever made and learns from it, a manager with a point to prove next season.
That manager is Sabri.
There will be no more motivated manager on earth to get NFFC promoted next season than Sabri.
LEEDS collapse end of last season had LOADS of people calling for Bielsa to be sacked. He was not good, bottled it, sack him, get Warnock or Pearson in - the normal shite you hear.
Leeds won the league this year sticking with the man who was bitterly disappointed end of last season.
We need to stick with our bitterly disappointed manager with a point to prove this coming new season.
There is a gulf between the type of football we play and the type of football Leeds play. You might say that they haven't beaten us this year, but I say yes they did beat us ... their typical of football one the league nd our type of football got us 7th. How many games we lost that we felt aggrieved that justice wasnt done? ...how many games did we win nd after we said, what matter are the three points? In the beginning many said...its the beginning, the players need time to get into the system...fair enough the standard excuse of early season crap performances, doesn't matter who is manager... fast forward 11 months...nd we got worse ...
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Strawberry Avenger - 26-07-2020
(26-07-2020, 05:06 AM)Maltared Wrote:(25-07-2020, 11:44 PM)JWJW Wrote: The best manager for NFFC now is a manager who is bitterly disappointed, who looks at every mistake he ever made and learns from it, a manager with a point to prove next season.
That manager is Sabri.
There will be no more motivated manager on earth to get NFFC promoted next season than Sabri.
LEEDS collapse end of last season had LOADS of people calling for Bielsa to be sacked. He was not good, bottled it, sack him, get Warnock or Pearson in - the normal shite you hear.
Leeds won the league this year sticking with the man who was bitterly disappointed end of last season.
We need to stick with our bitterly disappointed manager with a point to prove this coming new season.
There is a gulf between the type of football we play and the type of football Leeds play. You might say that they haven't beaten us this year, but I say yes they did beat us ... their typical of football one the league nd our type of football got us 7th. How many games we lost that we felt aggrieved that justice wasnt done? ...how many games did we win nd after we said, what matter are the three points? In the beginning many said...its the beginning, the players need time to get into the system...fair enough the standard excuse of early season crap performances, doesn't matter who is manager... fast forward 11 months...nd we got worse ...
SA.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Strawberry Avenger - 26-07-2020
(26-07-2020, 12:48 AM)Reds73 Wrote:(25-07-2020, 11:44 PM)JWJW Wrote: The best manager for NFFC now is a manager who is bitterly disappointed, who looks at every mistake he ever made and learns from it, a manager with a point to prove next season.
That manager is Sabri.
There will be no more motivated manager on earth to get NFFC promoted next season than Sabri.
LEEDS collapse end of last season had LOADS of people calling for Bielsa to be sacked. He was not good, bottled it, sack him, get Warnock or Pearson in - the normal shite you hear.
Leeds won the league this year sticking with the man who was bitterly disappointed end of last season.
We need to stick with our bitterly disappointed manager with a point to prove this coming new season.
Let’s hope the players still believe in him, because that is the crux of it.
his messages to the players won’t alter much, so hopefully they still trust his methods
Min the last two games...worryingly...he didn't sound as though he believed in himself.
Or could inspire the players players to get results.
its up to Marinakis.
SA.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Strawberry Avenger - 26-07-2020
There is building work to do.
On and off the pitch. Leeds were still a year ahead of us. Added to that...their style of football proved its point.
And so did ours.
SA.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - the jock - 26-07-2020
Bielsa got 83 points in his first season. 3rd up from 13th the season before. Its not comparable
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Forest are Class - 26-07-2020
What are the chances Watford approach Lamouchi now they are relegated?
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Strawberry Avenger - 26-07-2020
(26-07-2020, 08:15 PM)the jock Wrote: Bielsa got 83 points in his first season. 3rd up from 13th the season before. Its not comparable
Yep.
SA.
RE: I Think Sabri Has Left The Building - Mcforest - 26-07-2020
I wonder when we will know the outcome of the owners review. It's not long until the season starts.