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RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Marinakis Red - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 02:39 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 02:21 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Can you list the list of promises that EM has made then SM please as I genuinely don't know.

Not got time now mate, got some work to do and trying to make 7.45 kick off.
Will try to list it sometime but as I said a lot of it I would judge as more good intentions than promises if that makes sense?
I do want the club to be run better and I want EM and Murphy to still be here running it better.

Agree with the last lines whole heartedly.


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Strawberry Avenger - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 02:35 PM)Reds73 Wrote: Surely you must be surprised though sniff, and EM must be livid that after spending over 100m in 4 years we are bottom of the championship.

Antonis has previously said the EM expected to be in Prem after 3 yrs.

Now we are in a dog fight just to stay in the League, and light years away from the Prem.

His biggest fault was putting his trust and backing in Vrentzos and Modesto.

Do you think he can get us into the Prem, and keep us there whilst delivering the re-development ?

Or do you think he’s decided enough is enough

SA.   :idea:


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Username - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 02:23 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 02:09 PM)Username Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 02:09 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 01:46 PM)Alf Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 01:40 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: People who keep going on about broken promises.

Can someone please write me a list of all the things that EM has promised?

I am intrigued as I genuinely don't know.

Not so much EM as Randall & Ventzos. Personally I think stating this.........

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.......then employing 4 attritional managers for 3.5 of the 4 years they've been here is a significant broken promise tbh.

Even watching Lamouchi's relatively successful side was a real chore at times at home games.

I repeat can someone please write me a list of all the things that EM has PROMISED.

Still waiting.

Didn’t we have this exchange a few hours back?

He doesn’t make promises, he delivers.

Correct check his record in business and in the community if you are unsure.

By the way are you SSM in disguise?

Do you really think that given how long I’ve been posting here and the issues I had with NG2 at the outset?

Or just lashing out because EM is getting some deserved focus?


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Sausage Roll - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 02:35 PM)Reds73 Wrote: Surely you must be surprised though sniff, and EM must be livid that after spending over 100m in 4 years we are bottom of the championship.

Antonis has previously said the EM expected to be in Prem after 3 yrs.

Now we are in a dog fight just to stay in the League, and light years away from the Prem.

His biggest fault was putting his trust and backing in Vrentzos and Modesto.

Do you think he can get us into the Prem, and keep us there whilst delivering the re-development ?

Or do you think he’s decided enough is enough


I know that, in some respect, Marinakis' running of the club is a million miles away from Fawaz's - certainly in terms of paying bills on time, reputation with dealing with other clubs etc. However I do wonder if he shared a bit of Fawaz's naivety in how easy (or not as the case has been) to get out of the Championship. I mean, he's experienced pretty much constant success with Oly.


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Reds73 - 15-09-2021

Sometimes it’s the simple things.

Look at the lack of TLC at the City Ground.

No hot water in either BC or Bridgford stand. Sanitiser for last 2 home games has been empty before the mass public turned up.

The toilets are dreadful, the well publicised bird crap, my seats are dirty and full of cob webs.

The club don’t exactly greet you with open arms.

Is this really too much to ask for ?


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Strawberry Avenger - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 03:32 PM)Reds73 Wrote: Sometimes it’s the simple things.

Look at the lack of TLC at the City Ground.

No hot water in either BC or Bridgford stand. Sanitiser for last 2 home games has been empty before the mass public turned up.

The toilets are dreadful, the well publicised bird crap, my seats are dirty and full of cob webs.

The club don’t exactly greet you with open arms.

Is this really too much to ask for ?

Sometimes the little details are indicators of bigger problems.

SA.


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Strawberry Avenger - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 01:46 PM)Alf Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 01:40 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: People who keep going on about broken promises.

Can someone please write me a list of all the things that EM has promised?

I am intrigued as I genuinely don't know.

Not so much EM as Randall & Ventzos. Personally I think stating this.........

[Image: 0UoRHlv.png]

.......then employing 4 attritional managers for 3.5 of the 4 years they've been here is a significant broken promise tbh.

Even watching Lamouchi's relatively successful side was a real chore at times at home games.

I think they had the right man in Warburton.  Closest thing I can think of in the league to the 'Forest Way.'  

Not so much promises but noble intentions.  Ones that were clearly strayed from in subsequent appointments.

But impatience got the better of them.  

We'd be doing Plan A and Plan B currently if we'd kept him.


SA.


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Colnago - 15-09-2021

So he didn’t make any promises on anything? He just said he delivers ? If by delivers he means bottom of the league after years of investment then he certainly has delivered
As others have said he deserves all the criticism coming his way, he is the captain of the ship, end of story!
That doesn’t mean people want him gone they want to see improvement which we ve not seen


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Paplane - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 03:03 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 02:35 PM)Reds73 Wrote: Surely you must be surprised though sniff, and EM must be livid that after spending over 100m in 4 years we are bottom of the championship.

Antonis has previously said the EM expected to be in Prem after 3 yrs.

Now we are in a dog fight just to stay in the League, and light years away from the Prem.

His biggest fault was putting his trust and backing in Vrentzos and Modesto.

Do you think he can get us into the Prem, and keep us there whilst delivering the re-development ?

Or do you think he’s decided enough is enough


I know that, in some respect, Marinakis' running of the club is a million miles away from Fawaz's - certainly in terms of paying bills on time, reputation with dealing with other clubs etc. However I do wonder if he shared a bit of Fawaz's naivety in how easy (or not as the case has been) to get out of the Championship. I mean, he's experienced pretty much constant success with Oly.

I think you're right, he might have thought getting a club like Forest back up from the 2nd division would be straightforward. A lot of football club owners have thought the same thing and become unstuck.

I'm amazed there's still this desire to buy championship clubs. They're absolute money pits. And if you do actually get one to the prem, all the money generated goes out again on transfer fees and in players' pockets. Unless you're the Glaziers and making an absolute killing by flogging a club brand like Man Utd, what's the point?


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Paplane - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 03:53 PM)Colnago Wrote: So he didn’t make any promises on anything? He just said he delivers ? If by delivers he means bottom of the league after years of investment then he certainly has delivered
As others have said he deserves all the criticism coming his way, he is the captain of the ship, end of story!
That doesn’t mean people want him gone they want to see improvement which we ve not seen

But if all he sees, hears, reads is criticism, abuse and discontent then he'll bugger off. We've actually had that happen before not many years ago. The owner thought "bugger this why am I bothering", and we ended up with a clown as an owner.

I'd prefer to stick with EM rather than take my chances with the nut jobs and venture capitalists that are circulating around the sheep. At least we know EM is a football man, is worth a few quid, spends his own money and has a social conscience. We could do a lot lot worse.


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Colnago - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 04:13 PM)Paplane Wrote:
(15-09-2021, 03:53 PM)Colnago Wrote: So he didn’t make any promises on anything? He just said he delivers ? If by delivers he means bottom of the league after years of investment then he certainly has delivered
As others have said he deserves all the criticism coming his way, he is the captain of the ship, end of story!
That doesn’t mean people want him gone they want to see improvement which we ve not seen

But if all he sees, hears, reads is criticism, abuse and discontent then he'll bugger off. We've actually had that happen before not many years ago. The owner thought "bugger this why am I bothering", and we ended up with a clown as an owner.

I'd prefer to stick with EM rather than take my chances with the nut jobs and venture capitalists that are circulating around the sheep. At least we know EM is a football man, is worth a few quid, spends his own money and has a social conscience. We could do a lot lot worse.

I get what your saying Pap but sorry he deserves the criticism, the best way he could deal with it would be  to improve things behind the scenes!! Who knows maybe that’s what’s starting to happen


RE: Discuss Daniel Taylor's Thoughts - Madforit - 15-09-2021

(15-09-2021, 03:53 PM)Colnago Wrote: So he didn’t make any promises on anything? He just said he delivers ? If by delivers he means bottom of the league after years of investment then he certainly has delivered
As others have said he deserves all the criticism coming his way, he is the captain of the ship, end of story!
That doesn’t mean people want him gone they want to see improvement which we ve not seen

Spot on