(09-09-2021, 08:50 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:43 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 08:21 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 07:15 PM)Uwantlee Wrote: I personally thought he was very well thought out in what he said. He was fair and balanced throughout and spoke simple truths.

My particular favourite was the open letter and where we are on that.

I would like to hear the response from the club regarding that open letter and what they plan moving forward. Won’t happen though

You see this is my only real problem with Taylor, I like him I really do, we need someone to hold the club to account, nobody else does, he was the one that shone light on Fawaz, BDs dodgy cousin etc we owe him big time. His work on exposing the child abuse scandals is utterly amazing.

The problem is his obsession with the open letter and broken promises. I get that he feels deceived and he lapped it all up but Im sure there were good intentions at the time. Besides what organisations do not put out PR spin? They all do. His main job is covering Manchester Utd and City. Are you telling me those clubs dont put out PR spin some of which turns out to be crap?

He makes the point about the academy and CAT 1 being behind the game which is correct but why not shout about it now, especially when there is so much local competition. If someone wants to fact check but I think it might have been him when the announcement was made he said he was disappointed  we hadnt made a bigger deal about CAT 1. Yes our training ground is still too small and no we haven’t qualified for Europe in 5 years but really I didn’t expect to.

He is right to blow the whistle if he hears about off the field things that dont seem right, the Zoom call, suspicions of interference etc. But he might have still more credibility if he let one or two things go.

I agree SM; if Danny has information about wrong doing or incompetence or anything else which is not right behind the scenes, he has a duty to speak up, and to be fair, he has not held back in the past.

However, some of his recent revelations have been either incorrect or barely newsworthy.

His claims about Cat 1 are a complete misrepresentation of what has happened and blaming Marinakis because some other Clubs have stolen a 9 or 10 year march on us is totally laughable.

He completely ignores the fact that the Cat 1 attainment process runs over a three year cycle which limits a Clubs means of accessing the programme; Marinakis purchased the Club in 2017, the first opportunity to apply for Cat 1 would have been in 2018 - given the short timeframe and the complete mess inherited, there would not have been time to submit an application which would have succeeded.

2021 would have been the first realistic opportunity of obtaining Cat 1 in the Marinakis era, and that is what happened.

If Danny wants to know why we are 9 and 10 years behind Derby and Leicester, maybe he should have asked the person in charge 10 years ago, although I doubt he would have got a satisfactory answer as the owner at the time was too busy throwing his toys out following a supporters protest.

His claims that the rumours of Murphy's threatened resignation was the work of a former Director appear strange; the only two former Directors listed at Companies House are Samantha Gordon and Johnny Metgod; why in Gods name would they get involved in a stunt like that?

Danny needs to let his unedifying spat with Johnny Owen's drop and get back to his day job, which he is excellent at.

I think you may have misheard that. It wasn't a former director and I'm pretty sure Taylor didn't say that. It was a former board member of the Supporters' Trust, which indeed it was as I saw the tweet Taylor refers to.

(09-09-2021, 08:58 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: And how would he know did he hear it in the Red Lion?

It was obviously just a rumour and should be treated as such.

I didn't hear anything in the interview to be alarmed about whatsoever.

(09-09-2021, 09:20 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:50 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:43 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 08:21 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 07:15 PM)Uwantlee Wrote: I personally thought he was very well thought out in what he said. He was fair and balanced throughout and spoke simple truths.

My particular favourite was the open letter and where we are on that.

I would like to hear the response from the club regarding that open letter and what they plan moving forward. Won’t happen though

You see this is my only real problem with Taylor, I like him I really do, we need someone to hold the club to account, nobody else does, he was the one that shone light on Fawaz, BDs dodgy cousin etc we owe him big time. His work on exposing the child abuse scandals is utterly amazing.

The problem is his obsession with the open letter and broken promises. I get that he feels deceived and he lapped it all up but Im sure there were good intentions at the time. Besides what organisations do not put out PR spin? They all do. His main job is covering Manchester Utd and City. Are you telling me those clubs dont put out PR spin some of which turns out to be crap?

He makes the point about the academy and CAT 1 being behind the game which is correct but why not shout about it now, especially when there is so much local competition. If someone wants to fact check but I think it might have been him when the announcement was made he said he was disappointed  we hadnt made a bigger deal about CAT 1. Yes our training ground is still too small and no we haven’t qualified for Europe in 5 years but really I didn’t expect to.

He is right to blow the whistle if he hears about off the field things that dont seem right, the Zoom call, suspicions of interference etc. But he might have still more credibility if he let one or two things go.

I agree SM; if Danny has information about wrong doing or incompetence or anything else which is not right behind the scenes, he has a duty to speak up, and to be fair, he has not held back in the past.

However, some of his recent revelations have been either incorrect or barely newsworthy.

His claims about Cat 1 are a complete misrepresentation of what has happened and blaming Marinakis because some other Clubs have stolen a 9 or 10 year march on us is totally laughable.

He completely ignores the fact that the Cat 1 attainment process runs over a three year cycle which limits a Clubs means of accessing the programme; Marinakis purchased the Club in 2017, the first opportunity to apply for Cat 1 would have been in 2018 - given the short timeframe and the complete mess inherited, there would not have been time to submit an application which would have succeeded.

2021 would have been the first realistic opportunity of obtaining Cat 1 in the Marinakis era, and that is what happened.

If Danny wants to know why we are 9 and 10 years behind Derby and Leicester, maybe he should have asked the person in charge 10 years ago, although I doubt he would have got a satisfactory answer as the owner at the time was too busy throwing his toys out following a supporters protest.

His claims that the rumours of Murphy's threatened resignation was the work of a former Director appear strange; the only two former Directors listed at Companies House are Samantha Gordon and Johnny Metgod; why in Gods name would they get involved in a stunt like that?

Danny needs to let his unedifying spat with Johnny Owen's drop and get back to his day job, which he is excellent at.

I think you may have misheard that. It wasn't a former director and I'm pretty sure Taylor didn't say that. It was a former board member of the Supporters' Trust, which indeed it was as I saw the tweet Taylor refers to.

Well if that is true, it makes the point even crazier; why get involved in infantile gossip like that?

This is a brilliant Journalist, at the top of his game, involved in a childish point scoring exercise, against someone he has fallen out with and another person who has blanked Danny from day one; he needs to get over it and move on.

If Murphy will not play the game, it will only be a matter of time before Danny turns on him.

(09-09-2021, 09:20 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:50 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:43 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 08:21 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 07:15 PM)Uwantlee Wrote: I personally thought he was very well thought out in what he said. He was fair and balanced throughout and spoke simple truths.

My particular favourite was the open letter and where we are on that.

I would like to hear the response from the club regarding that open letter and what they plan moving forward. Won’t happen though

You see this is my only real problem with Taylor, I like him I really do, we need someone to hold the club to account, nobody else does, he was the one that shone light on Fawaz, BDs dodgy cousin etc we owe him big time. His work on exposing the child abuse scandals is utterly amazing.

The problem is his obsession with the open letter and broken promises. I get that he feels deceived and he lapped it all up but Im sure there were good intentions at the time. Besides what organisations do not put out PR spin? They all do. His main job is covering Manchester Utd and City. Are you telling me those clubs dont put out PR spin some of which turns out to be crap?

He makes the point about the academy and CAT 1 being behind the game which is correct but why not shout about it now, especially when there is so much local competition. If someone wants to fact check but I think it might have been him when the announcement was made he said he was disappointed  we hadnt made a bigger deal about CAT 1. Yes our training ground is still too small and no we haven’t qualified for Europe in 5 years but really I didn’t expect to.

He is right to blow the whistle if he hears about off the field things that dont seem right, the Zoom call, suspicions of interference etc. But he might have still more credibility if he let one or two things go.

I agree SM; if Danny has information about wrong doing or incompetence or anything else which is not right behind the scenes, he has a duty to speak up, and to be fair, he has not held back in the past.

However, some of his recent revelations have been either incorrect or barely newsworthy.

His claims about Cat 1 are a complete misrepresentation of what has happened and blaming Marinakis because some other Clubs have stolen a 9 or 10 year march on us is totally laughable.

He completely ignores the fact that the Cat 1 attainment process runs over a three year cycle which limits a Clubs means of accessing the programme; Marinakis purchased the Club in 2017, the first opportunity to apply for Cat 1 would have been in 2018 - given the short timeframe and the complete mess inherited, there would not have been time to submit an application which would have succeeded.

2021 would have been the first realistic opportunity of obtaining Cat 1 in the Marinakis era, and that is what happened.

If Danny wants to know why we are 9 and 10 years behind Derby and Leicester, maybe he should have asked the person in charge 10 years ago, although I doubt he would have got a satisfactory answer as the owner at the time was too busy throwing his toys out following a supporters protest.

His claims that the rumours of Murphy's threatened resignation was the work of a former Director appear strange; the only two former Directors listed at Companies House are Samantha Gordon and Johnny Metgod; why in Gods name would they get involved in a stunt like that?

Danny needs to let his unedifying spat with Johnny Owen's drop and get back to his day job, which he is excellent at.

I think you may have misheard that. It wasn't a former director and I'm pretty sure Taylor didn't say that. It was a former board member of the Supporters' Trust, which indeed it was as I saw the tweet Taylor refers to.

Well if that is true, it makes the point even crazier; why get involved in infantile gossip like that?

This is a brilliant Journalist, at the top of his game, involved in a childish point scoring exercise, against someone he has fallen out with and another person who has blanked Danny from day one; he needs to get over it and move on.

If Murphy will not play the game, it will only be a matter of time before Danny turns on him.

(09-09-2021, 10:34 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 09:20 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:50 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 08:43 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 08:21 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: You see this is my only real problem with Taylor, I like him I really do, we need someone to hold the club to account, nobody else does, he was the one that shone light on Fawaz, BDs dodgy cousin etc we owe him big time. His work on exposing the child abuse scandals is utterly amazing.

The problem is his obsession with the open letter and broken promises. I get that he feels deceived and he lapped it all up but Im sure there were good intentions at the time. Besides what organisations do not put out PR spin? They all do. His main job is covering Manchester Utd and City. Are you telling me those clubs dont put out PR spin some of which turns out to be crap?

He makes the point about the academy and CAT 1 being behind the game which is correct but why not shout about it now, especially when there is so much local competition. If someone wants to fact check but I think it might have been him when the announcement was made he said he was disappointed  we hadnt made a bigger deal about CAT 1. Yes our training ground is still too small and no we haven’t qualified for Europe in 5 years but really I didn’t expect to.

He is right to blow the whistle if he hears about off the field things that dont seem right, the Zoom call, suspicions of interference etc. But he might have still more credibility if he let one or two things go.

I agree SM; if Danny has information about wrong doing or incompetence or anything else which is not right behind the scenes, he has a duty to speak up, and to be fair, he has not held back in the past.

However, some of his recent revelations have been either incorrect or barely newsworthy.

His claims about Cat 1 are a complete misrepresentation of what has happened and blaming Marinakis because some other Clubs have stolen a 9 or 10 year march on us is totally laughable.

He completely ignores the fact that the Cat 1 attainment process runs over a three year cycle which limits a Clubs means of accessing the programme; Marinakis purchased the Club in 2017, the first opportunity to apply for Cat 1 would have been in 2018 - given the short timeframe and the complete mess inherited, there would not have been time to submit an application which would have succeeded.

2021 would have been the first realistic opportunity of obtaining Cat 1 in the Marinakis era, and that is what happened.

If Danny wants to know why we are 9 and 10 years behind Derby and Leicester, maybe he should have asked the person in charge 10 years ago, although I doubt he would have got a satisfactory answer as the owner at the time was too busy throwing his toys out following a supporters protest.

His claims that the rumours of Murphy's threatened resignation was the work of a former Director appear strange; the only two former Directors listed at Companies House are Samantha Gordon and Johnny Metgod; why in Gods name would they get involved in a stunt like that?

Danny needs to let his unedifying spat with Johnny Owen's drop and get back to his day job, which he is excellent at.

I think you may have misheard that. It wasn't a former director and I'm pretty sure Taylor didn't say that. It was a former board member of the Supporters' Trust, which indeed it was as I saw the tweet Taylor refers to.

Well if that is true, it makes the point even crazier; why get involved in infantile gossip like that?

This is a brilliant Journalist, at the top of his game, involved in a childish point scoring exercise, against someone he has fallen out with and another person who has blanked Danny from day one; he needs to get over it and move on.

If Murphy will not play the game, it will only be a matter of time before Danny turns on him.

Errr….have I missed something here? Cannot understand what you were on about at all?
Taylor in that interview was talking about how twitter rumours start, get picked up by some sections of the media and then taken as fact by the fan base. The Longstaff loan rumour was one, Murphy walking out was another. He didnt start the rumour.
What is this wild conspiracy you are talking about?

(09-09-2021, 07:17 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 04:12 PM)SSM Wrote: Glad he spoke out, he clearly had calmed since deadline day and I think he kept his powder dry to maintain his composure.

But damning inditement of Vrentzos still at the club with far too much influence.

Worrall being on half of what Lyle Taylor is sums the management of the club up over the past few years perfectly.  How has that transpired?

Still need a clean break from Vrentzos, which has not happened as was alleged to have happened.

Spoke out? He didn't say anything even remotely controversial.

Not sure why you are being such a drama queen.

(09-09-2021, 01:07 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Wow such drama. Johnny Owen should make a film.

(09-09-2021, 01:10 PM)SSM Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 01:07 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Wow such drama. Johnny Owen should make a film.

Bury your head in the sand as much as you like.

(09-09-2021, 01:13 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 01:10 PM)SSM Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 01:07 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Wow such drama. Johnny Owen should make a film.

Bury your head in the sand as much as you like.

You looking in the mirror?

(08-09-2021, 11:10 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Sorry but I don't believe for  second that Taylor is on 30K and nobody can convince me otherwise.