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08-10-2020, 10:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-10-2020, 10:44 AM by Widdow.)
For me one of the problems, is that nobody know who the chief Exec is, he doesn’t do interviews, he doesn’t provide any open letters, it feels like he has been protected by the club and media (and including Daniel Taylor in that) but seems like it has come to the point to look at his involvement and how he is running the club and is working on The Marinakis Manifesto
If you look at what Marinakis wanted and what has been delivered, then after 3.5 years the CEO has failed. During the Greeks reign we are on our 5th Manager, signed 70 odd players, had different coaches, scouting teams yet the common denominator (is not the fans that some have claimed) but Vrentzos, so why cannot we questions his involvement and how he is running the club? Isn’t it time he stood up and made himself known and the direction he wants to take the club and the strategy behind it.
He shield the owners and runs the clubs from head to bottom, and the City Ground is not a happy place, continue to loses money and all positivity has been eroded.
Reminds me of Mark Arthur, the guy who safeguarded and defended Nigel Doughty, and he was the man who took a lot of the pressure and criticism from the fans (including me) he took quite a long time for fans to realise things had to change, but at least Arthur put his head above the Parapet and do interviews and attend supporters events to answer questions (even if we didn’t like the answers) but this pitbull remains on the leash and remains anonymous as do any of the C-suite / owners.
Its time for a charm offensive, and hoping we get a reaction.
But my questions are
Is it fair to question him or not?
Do you want to hear from him or happy as we are?
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The spotlight is on him now bigtime over Taylor. Everything will be magnified.
If hughton isnt a success I dont know where they are going to go.
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I think Taylor will live to regret his outburst big time
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(08-10-2020, 10:20 AM)tugger2018 Wrote: I think Taylor will live to regret his outburst big time
Be interesting to see if he's back in the director's box when fans can return, though that seems a long way off...
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(08-10-2020, 10:20 AM)tugger2018 Wrote: I think Taylor will live to regret his outburst big time
Why?
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(08-10-2020, 10:27 AM)stirred Wrote: (08-10-2020, 10:20 AM)tugger2018 Wrote: I think Taylor will live to regret his outburst big time
Be interesting to see if he's back in the director's box when fans can return, though that seems a long way off...
Not a directors box regular. Often takes his son & sits with the rest of us.
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In answer to your question Widdow, yes he should answer questions. But in answering those questions, he needs to be open and honest with them.
At the end of the day, Nottingham Forest Football Club is bigger than Vrentzos. We have been around for 155 years and in most of that time, we have been a hugely respected club. If Vrentzos lies in answer to any questions aimed at him, and he is then proven to have lied, then not only does he do disservice to himself, but the good name of our club and the integrity of our owner.
If he tells the truth about questions aimed at him, then dependent on the answer (or allegation) made to him, then it is down to the owner(s) of the club (lets us not forget Kominakis here) to determine what should be his fate, especially if the truth is detrimental to the way our club is being run.
My only real concern is the fact that Marinakis will believe whatever Vrentzos tells him, due to the loyalty Vrentzos has shown to EM over the years, which could possibly mean that things will not change in the future.
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I always thought Mark Arthur was protecting Nigel’s budget and, as such, ran the club well (generally) from a financial perspective...”allowing contracts to run down” I hear you say.
The way we conduct ourselves at the moment with our strategy in transfers makes me think that we don’t protect EMs investment in the same way.
If anything I would like us to act more in EMs interests as they are ultimately our own.
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We start winning on the pitch everything will be forgotten.
I expect this thread to drop down the chart pretty quickly.
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(08-10-2020, 12:57 PM)Username Wrote: I always thought Mark Arthur was protecting Nigel’s budget and, as such, ran the club well (generally) from a financial perspective...”allowing contracts to run down” I hear you say.
The way we conduct ourselves at the moment with our strategy in transfers makes me think that we don’t protect EMs investment in the same way.
If anything I would like us to act more in EMs interests as they are ultimately our own.
What are the allegations against Vrentzos? That he puts people under pressure to deliver results?, that he has acts as a guardian to the club's owners by forcing overplayed players out who are not performing? Nothing unusual for a ceo of a top company (or club in our case) is there? Pantmillion was poor, Carvalho too. I can see it, he can obviously see it. Maybe he also saw how MoN carried out his business and thought this is not going to work.
And this zoom call by EM. OK, set out in black and white it looks poor form from our owner, but does not everybody in an organisation have a boss who bollocks them when things aren't right?
I'm not going to suddenly decide if I'm pro or anti Vrentzos all of a sudden because someone has clobbered him in public and there's a sudden witch hunt against an individual. I'll make my own mind up. I know absolutely nothing of the bloke. I could walk right past him and not realise who he is. But currently, I see improvements in the way the club is run year on year. This year we have a top manager and have brought in top players. That's what it's all about really.
All this criticism is ridiculous and could probably be levied at most other clubs in the country. Look at the shit show down the road.
The only criticism I'm prepared to make is that someone needs to be speaking to the fans.
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Assuming the content of my Junk mail folder is true and I have indeed inherited £100M from a Nigerian prince I fully intend to negotiate with Mr Marinakis to one day buy Forest.
When the day comes I can assure you I wont be doing a Zoom call with the players. No I will be bursting into the dressing room at half time to deliver some full on arse kickings in person. There is a way of doing things but EM was within his rights to lay down the law IMO.
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