Sabri Will He Stay Be Sacked Or Quit
In the cold light of day I have tried to be circumspect and these are my thoughts:

Despite Huddesfield being crap last night was always going to be a tough game with so many new players being bedded in. We probably deserved to be 1 up at least by half time and we should have been playing 89 minutes plus stoppages against 10 men. The new CBs both looked individually very good.  

EM has backed Sabri in a big way so probably wants to allow players to bed in. Signing one managers requests by the bucket load and then sacking him is certainly a path that is tried, tested and proven to be failed, time and time again, both on and off the pitch by Nottingham Forest.

Our fans are rightly demanding adding pressure, we have plenty who are to use Mr Cloughs words "know nowts" (I have seen Cowley touted by one muppet else where). We have signed lots of "proven Championship players". Our academy has been our life blood financially and continues to be so, with EM. Norwich won the league a couple of years back after a really slow start, so in this league more than any other it can be turned around.

The flip side
However..... these "proven Championship players" usually end up back in the championship for a reason. Of course Arter contributed to Fulhams promotion but he was surrounded by much better players than we have wasn't he? Blackett was so good for Reading that they let him go without offering him a contract and so on. 
The academy keeps us going (sky said £50 million in last 4 years I think) and we continue to sign "proven" players promoted with previous clubs (We tried that with Megson as I remember, how did that go?). Hefele was promoted with Uddersfield as was Lolley, Christie and Arter with Fulham, Grabbs with Villa, Colback with Newcastle, Albert with Villa and so on. If we try hard enough we could sign a whole team of players deemed not good enough by other teams  (harsh I realise, but putting both sides). The difference between Prem and top end of Championship is not as big as people have you believe. Ask Wolves, Sheff Utd and co. It's why so many relegated teams struggle to get back up straight away.

But for all this and the obvious need to give players, supposedly good enough time to gel, I get pulled back to the team sheet announcement yesterday. I was amazed by the gleeful reaction of many. All I saw was 3 centre mids and no real width. I worried (rightly) about where goals would come from and (wrongly) about a whole new back 4. Plus that a horrible run of results now.

Go or stay? If he stays then the "style" of football conversation needs to be had. Then we can "do a Norwich" otherwise I fear a doing a Forest Kinnear/Megson style. Jury's out for me and I'm getting splinters.
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It just looks to me like there's zero confidence or spark in the players & there hasn't been since the draw with the sheep.

Has he lost the dressing room? I can't imagine there would be any of those bench cams these days that our media team were so into at the start of last season, when there seemed like genuine spirit & a sense of unity all round.

Instead they look confused or just not bothered. Arter's face when he got instructions from Grabban when he came on was damning.

I'm amazed he hasn't gone yet. O'Neill went after the players revolted. I wonder if the same players are being asked their opinions now...
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(26-09-2020, 11:23 AM)pennhillred Wrote: It just looks to me like there's zero confidence or spark in the players & there hasn't been since the draw with the sheep.

Has he lost the dressing room? I can't imagine there would be any of those bench cams these days that our media team were so into at the start of last season, when there seemed like genuine spirit & a sense of unity all round.

Instead they look confused or just not bothered. Arter's face when he got instructions from Grabban when he came on was damning.

I'm amazed he hasn't gone yet. O'Neill went after the players revolted. I wonder if the same players are being asked their opinions now...

According to Jack Colback the players are behind. I suspect that is true for some and not others. I guess that is true at every club.
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(26-09-2020, 11:39 AM)Jacksbadhobbits Wrote:
(26-09-2020, 11:23 AM)pennhillred Wrote: It just looks to me like there's zero confidence or spark in the players & there hasn't been since the draw with the sheep.

Has he lost the dressing room? I can't imagine there would be any of those bench cams these days that our media team were so into at the start of last season, when there seemed like genuine spirit & a sense of unity all round.

Instead they look confused or just not bothered. Arter's face when he got instructions from Grabban when he came on was damning.

I'm amazed he hasn't gone yet. O'Neill went after the players revolted. I wonder if the same players are being asked their opinions now...

According to Jack Colback the players are behind. I suspect that is true for some and not others. I guess that is true at every club.

What else would he say...
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Some people need to get a grip and stop believing everything that they read.

I see some folks on twitter are working themsleves up into a frenzy over Takis Lemonis coming in to replace Sabri.

I have never read so much rubbish in all my life. Takis Lemonis, really? FFS get a grip of yourselves.
Panic on the streets of London
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(26-09-2020, 11:51 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Some people need to get a grip and stop believing everything that they read.

I see some folks on twitter are working themsleves up into a frenzy over Takis Lemonis coming in to replace Sabri.

I have never read so much rubbish in all my life. Takis Lemonis, really? FFS get a grip of yourselves.

More likely to be Rick Lemon eh Sniff?
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(26-09-2020, 11:51 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Some people need to get a grip and stop believing everything that they read.

I see some folks on twitter are working themsleves up into a frenzy over Takis Lemonis coming in to replace Sabri.

I have never read so much rubbish in all my life. Takis Lemonis, really? FFS get a grip of yourselves.

Ha who is takis Lemonis?!
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(26-09-2020, 12:00 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(26-09-2020, 11:51 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Some people need to get a grip and stop believing everything that they read.

I see some folks on twitter are working themsleves up into a frenzy over Takis Lemonis coming in to replace Sabri.

I have never read so much rubbish in all my life. Takis Lemonis, really? FFS get a grip of yourselves.

Ha who is takis Lemonis?!

He's a Greek football manager whos managed Olympiakos in the past on more than one occasion.
Panic on the streets of London
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Who do you think the big man would like to replace sabri then Sniff?
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Never heard of him?!
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Lift off Wikipedia


Takis Lemonis (Greek: Τάκης Λεμονής; born 13 January 1960) is a Greek former footballer and current manager, due to take over at Nottingham Forest. He is nicknamed "Sir Takis" due to his memorable performances at European competitions as a manager of Olympiacos and he is an all-time favourite of the fans.
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Anybody can edit Wikipedia can’t they?

Is this your mystery man then Sniff?
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