Poll: Should Sabri be sacked immediately or not?
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Should Sabri Be Sacked Or Not?
#25
(15-09-2020, 05:28 PM)Jacksbadhobbits Wrote: Give the team he has assembled an opportunity to gel. That will take time.

Genuine question.... do you think EM will give him time?

He has been here over a year he is expected to get us promoted this year. Time is very much against him. If there isn’t a dramatic improvement very soon he will be gone... and we are not speaking 10 to 15 games. 

If it wasn’t for a poor January recruitment wise he wouldn’t be here anymore. Ive said it before, you could have messi and Ronaldo in this team but we would still struggle set up the way we are.
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#26
I'm not sure he's going to get more time. Until Soh we hadn't spent much, so no great commitment to Sabri money-wise or ego-wise.

Add on the fact (?) that Modesto and Anigo are in charge of recruitment and they brought in Soh, our first major signing.

That makes the manager more disposable and EM's patience more likely to run out sooner rather than later.
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#27
The wages we have committed too will be massive. The investment in this squad for a team without parachute payments is huge. It’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
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#28
I just cannot see sabri adapting his and our style, we have been found out and it is not working, he seems to have an inability to change to make things work using our players to the best of there ability, our attack minded players spend far too much time defending wasting energy so when we actually go forward we are laboured, slow and predictable.

Sabri has not even flinched or hinted trying to play a slightly different way, Yates and colback were so deep on Saturday it was untrue, this system is so easy to play against, you know that nobody is going to run off grabban, you know we are not close enough to him to get in behind teams, we always play in front of teams making it so easy to read. Defenders hate facing there own goal and we do not ever turn teams around, or get more than 3 players in the penalty area unless it's off a set piece so no wonder the goals count is so low. Less than a goal a game in the last 17 games really worries me.

so for that reason and his stubbornness means we may as well start again now as this style is not changing nor does it work. He used up all his luck in the first half of the season. It has disappeared like our form and confidence.
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#29
(15-09-2020, 07:53 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: The wages we have committed too will be massive. The investment in this squad for a team without parachute payments is huge. It’s wrong to suggest otherwise.

We committed to big wages and big investment last season (da Costa on 25k particularly galling) but I think our recruitment has been more canny (and less committal) in this transfer window, which is when the reset button will have been pressed.
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#30
(15-09-2020, 08:11 PM)TwoStar Wrote:
(15-09-2020, 07:53 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: The wages we have committed too will be massive. The investment in this squad for a team without parachute payments is huge. It’s wrong to suggest otherwise.

We committed to big wages and big investment last season (da Costa on 25k particularly galling) but I think our recruitment has been more canny (and less committal) in this transfer window, which is when the reset button will have been pressed.

I honestly don’t think the reset button has been pressed. To give the amount of time some are suggesting is almost like saying we are not going for promotion this year. He HAS to get us promoted this year, failure is not an option. If after 4 or 5 games it looks as it is now he will be gone.

I hope he can and I want him to get it right. Time is not on his side though.
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#31
I think he will be sacked Saturday
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#32
Mabey the pressure will make him go even more defensive so we will lose again and he will get sacked . If he was to play attacking football and we still lost at least this might give him some breathing room with the fans
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#33
(15-09-2020, 09:03 PM)Redreg Wrote: Mabey the pressure will make him go even more defensive so we will lose again and he will get sacked . If he was to play attacking football and we still lost at least this might give him some breathing room with the fans

At this present time I think it is the style of football that's killing him. Simply because it is showing that he hasn't learnt or developed since the end of last season.

If we could see him.implementing a more attacking emphasis to the counter attacking style I would certainly afford more time as he is making changes.

Instead, what we have seen so far is applying the same tactics and style with different player. A style that has been found out and one that will not get us promoted.

Now praying he proves.me wrong and gets us up.
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#34
I was so pleased when Sabri was not sacked. I feel that it has to be best for the club that we have the same manager for a while to see what he can really do. I do think that the dreadful end to last season has made people feel very differently about a manager that seemed to be largely very popular.
I have started to have my doubts because he seems to be stubbornly sticking to the defensive style of football and though it nearly worked, it didn't ultimately get us over the line. Nevertheless, the owners have given him the players he wants and to sack him after a couple of games just wouldn't make sense. I think he should be given till Christmas (unless we are bottom half). I genuinely think we will be rewarded with sticking with him, but the type of football makes it difficult to stomach giving him that time.
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#35
(15-09-2020, 09:08 PM)Uwantlee Wrote:
(15-09-2020, 09:03 PM)Redreg Wrote: Mabey the pressure will make him go even more defensive so we will lose again and he will get sacked . If he was to play attacking football and we still lost at least this might give him some breathing room with the fans

At this present time I think it is the style of football that's killing him. Simply because it is showing that he hasn't learnt or developed since the end of last season.

If we could see him.implementing a more attacking emphasis to the counter attacking style I would certainly afford more time as he is making changes.

Instead, what we have seen so far is applying the same tactics and style with different player. A style that has been found out and one that will not get us promoted.

Now praying he proves.me wrong and gets us up.

A style that got us our highest league position for many years after arriving at the club one day before our first pre- season friendly. This summer he has been able to bring more of his players into the squad and after one league match that could of gone either way, posters on here are wanting to sack him. It took Brian Clough 2 and half seasons to get us promoted. We have no chance of progressing with this level of impatience.
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#36
(15-09-2020, 10:35 PM)Jacksbadhobbits Wrote:
(15-09-2020, 09:08 PM)Uwantlee Wrote:
(15-09-2020, 09:03 PM)Redreg Wrote: Mabey the pressure will make him go even more defensive so we will lose again and he will get sacked . If he was to play attacking football and we still lost at least this might give him some breathing room with the fans

At this present time I think it is the style of football that's killing him. Simply because it is showing that he hasn't learnt or developed since the end of last season.

If we could see him.implementing a more attacking emphasis to the counter attacking style I would certainly afford more time as he is making changes.

Instead, what we have seen so far is applying the same tactics and style with different player. A style that has been found out and one that will not get us promoted.

Now praying he proves.me wrong and gets us up.

A style that got us our highest league position for many years after arriving at the club one day before our first pre- season friendly. This summer he has been able to bring more of his players into the squad and after one league match that could of gone either way, posters on here are wanting to sack him. It took Brian Clough 2 and half seasons to get us promoted. We have no chance of progressing with this level of impatience.

I really wish people would stop with this highest finish stuff. Yes we finished 7th... so what. Our form up to January was top 3 but people forget that. After this we dropped like a stone. We needed 1 point from Barnsley away and stoke at home and we lost both never looking like we would win.

Our form is relegation form and we shouldn’t be looking at our highest finish we should look at the fact we failed to at least reach the playoffs. 7th place gets us Nothing. It was embarrassing to watch and still is.

I’m more concerned about the fact we blew a dead cert playoff finish in spectacular fashion and sabri has overseen the worst collapse I think I have witnessed. Yes it was great to see some performances against Brentford, Leeds and Fulham but equally it was awful to watch Millwall, charlton and stoke. Leeds what the last good game to watch since then it has been very worrying.
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