QPR - Nottingham Forest

[Fumanchew]

So the consensus is that it should have been riberio Blackett worrall and darikwa/jenks as the back four?

[Plymouth red]

Can't defend.  Can't score.

Figs elementary penalty gift.  Grabban misses 2 or 3 you'd bet him burying.

Another 'loss of concentration' moment.  I'd rather Big Ben in than Fig' at the moment.

Seem brittle at the back.

SA.

Cant pass either at present....

Again.  No possession in CM.  Can't see to put our foot on the ball.

Lacklustre.  Lacks energy.  Tempo.  Urgency from the off.

I hope recruitment have a ball player CM on the shopping list.  And a winger who is a class above what we have.

We keep getting mugged with soft goals.

Barnie.  QPR.  (Who have lost their best players...)

SA.

I don't think we can just keep signing more players. We've made some good signings and strengthened across the whole team. At some point we've got to actually get the good players we have, bossing the games as we should. We've all been wanting a player like colback, we got him, we've wanted a link up creative midfielder - we got a very good one in Freeman. Ameobi and Lolley should be able to create enough on the wings. And we've got two strikers who, with good service, should both be capable of scoring 15-20 goals

We have the players who should be able to a) perform better than this and B) win games.

We are shedding a cack load of money and have a decent depth of talent in the squad. We should be seeing the likes of Adomah ahead of da Costa. We should be seeing Jenkinson ahead of Gabriel. We have players who are not contributing when we play and players who are not given a chance.

At some point we actually need to play a system that plays to our strengths not try and simply limit the opposition

[Strawberry Avenger]

Mark Warburton’s QPR keep a clean sheet against us.

That's a disgrace.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Can't defend.  Can't score.

Figs elementary penalty gift.  Grabban misses 2 or 3 you'd bet him burying.

Another 'loss of concentration' moment.  I'd rather Big Ben in than Fig' at the moment.

Seem brittle at the back.

SA.

Cant pass either at present....

Again.  No possession in CM.  Can't see to put our foot on the ball.

Lacklustre.  Lacks energy.  Tempo.  Urgency from the off.

I hope recruitment have a ball player CM on the shopping list.  And a winger who is a class above what we have.

We keep getting mugged with soft goals.

Barnie.  QPR.  (Who have lost their best players...)

SA.

I don't think we can just keep signing more players. We've made some good signings and strengthened across the whole team. At some point we've got to actually get the good players we have, bossing the games as we should. We've all been wanting a player like colback, we got him, we've wanted a link up creative midfielder - we got a very good one in Freeman. Ameobi and Lolley should be able to create enough on the wings. And we've got two strikers who, with good service, should both be capable of scoring 15-20 goals

We have the players who should be able to a) perform better than this and B) win games.

We are shedding a cack load of money and have a decent depth of talent in the squad. We should be seeing the likes of Adomah ahead of da Costa. We should be seeing Jenkinson ahead of Gabriel. We have players who are not contributing when we play and players who are not given a chance.

At some point we actually need to play a system that plays to our strengths not try and simply limit the opposition

No.  Just one or two creative players who 'can.'  eg. that can supply a striker (next level winger...) and a ball playing CM.

SA.

[Plymouth red]

:huh: :huh: :huh:

Well that shits all over Blackett who I felt was alright. Certainly not to blame for why we lost.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Sabri is draining all excitement I have for watching football.

Maybe that is the style of football we're aiming for.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Our players definitely haven’t recovered form the Stoke game.

Only 5 players who started that game started this one can it really be that cut and dried?

Worrall and Figs look mentally shot to pieces.

Of 21 games 1st conceded...won 2.

You need to create to turn games around.

Brittle at the back.

I feel for Figs and Worrall.  I'd rather we have an experienced CH alongside eg. Worrall and he in his natural position.

SA.

[PsychoStanleyStone]

Chair looked comfortable

[Tricky]

Can't defend.  Can't score.

Figs elementary penalty gift.  Grabban misses 2 or 3 you'd bet him burying.

Another 'loss of concentration' moment.  I'd rather Big Ben in than Fig' at the moment.

Seem brittle at the back.

SA.

Cant pass either at present....

Again.  No possession in CM.  Can't see to put our foot on the ball.

Lacklustre.  Lacks energy.  Tempo.  Urgency from the off.

I hope recruitment have a ball player CM on the shopping list.  And a winger who is a class above what we have.

We keep getting mugged with soft goals.

Barnie.  QPR.  (Who have lost their best players...)

SA.

I don't think we can just keep signing more players. We've made some good signings and strengthened across the whole team. At some point we've got to actually get the good players we have, bossing the games as we should. We've all been wanting a player like colback, we got him, we've wanted a link up creative midfielder - we got a very good one in Freeman. Ameobi and Lolley should be able to create enough on the wings. And we've got two strikers who, with good service, should both be capable of scoring 15-20 goals

We have the players who should be able to a) perform better than this and B) win games.

We are shedding a cack load of money and have a decent depth of talent in the squad. We should be seeing the likes of Adomah ahead of da Costa. We should be seeing Jenkinson ahead of Gabriel. We have players who are not contributing when we play and players who are not given a chance.

At some point we actually need to play a system that plays to our strengths not try and simply limit the opposition

No.  Just one or two creative players who 'can.'  eg. that can supply a striker (next level winger...) and a ball playing CM.

SA.

How about signing a striker that can score from 4 yards out and 8 yards out respectively? 

Grabban missed so many similar opportunities after lockdown last season and nothing is ever said about that! But Worrall is still being blamed for us not reaching the play offs last season after his foul against Derby!!! Those misses cost us just as many points, if not more than Worralls foul did.

Maybe its time some of the supporting roles took a few more pops at goal instead of pandering to Grabbans needs a bit more often. Yes he did score 20 last season, I will accept that, but many times has he missed from close range? How many times have those misses cost us games? How many penalties has he missed over the past two years?

I am sick and tired of it being everybody elses fault that we arent winning matches. Its never the strikers fault.  But we are never gonna win if we dont score goals. Simples!

This isnt a pop at you BTW SA, you just happened to mention 'striker'. Sorry lad!

[Tricky]

Chair looked comfortable

Hi did cushion the ball well

[Fumanchew]

:huh: :huh: :huh:

Well that shits all over Blackett who I felt was alright. Certainly not to blame for why we lost.

No not saying he was, off the back four from last week maybe it was figs that needed to be dropped for Blackett? 

But then the main question is why did he make that choice? When did he make it? You’d hope in training all week when we’ve played team games he had Blackett at left back and didnt just decided it on the coach down last night.

[Plymouth red]

If Grabban had better composure then he would probably be playing in the Premier league (or certainly would have done so more). Reality is he has always been that striker who needs 3 or 4 chances to get a goal. It is his awareness and positioning too get into those positions that allows him to get So many goals at this level.

Whether you give Taylor the chance next match remains to be seen - at least we have that option.