27-04-2019, 10:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 27-04-2019, 11:01 AM by PsychoStanleyStone.)
wassy04
The overreaction is assuming Martin is suddenly a great manager based on one game and that he’ll therefore definitely put together a winning team now. I think we’re marginally below par based on the squad we have, think 8/9th would be about right so not too disappointing really. As I said it’s the handling of this situation with carvalho I didn’t like and his reaction to fans chanting.
As for the point about him being an asset, that’s how running a successful team/business works. They invested £13m therefore he automatically has a higher value than most players. Due to FFP and just business sense, you need to protect your biggest assets
M o N actually is a great manager, 24 consecutive wins, 3rd best of all time in the European hemisphere, more than Pep, more than Fergie, Klopp and many, many other achievements.
I think he is working around our strengths, we now actually have solid, brick shithouses who can play a bit, I've always liked the idea of 3 5 2 , yes it becomes 5 3 2 or 5 4 1 but alot of time it has been more like 8.1.1 whatever it takes to get a solid defence, basically a foundation that can enable a lot of offensive expansive options.
We haven't had a defence anywhere near as solid looking as now for many years.
In a way it isn't fair to align those signings to M o N except that M o N despite all his phenomonal achievements is prepared to work as part of a team with the owners and scouting.
In the context of this thread, where actually there isn't any comparison really, AK and maybe the club and the fans were into short termism, hoardes of players in and out and AK wanting to sign anything that moved.
I'm seeing academy players who have seen 25-30 players come and go being first choice due to commitment and work rate.
Football is a business only as much as a Rock Band is a business, you got to be able to play, ideally your own songs that tell a story with passion and meaning that only sometimes the fans get.
If you ain't into the journey or the music … are you really a fan? Fans breed fans, supporters strengthen football clubs.
Good managers find a way to get a tune or hopefully an album and a good gig and then a world tour, but it's for the fans not the non fans.
Get on board.
(24-04-2019, 02:56 PM)woody Wrote: How have you arrived at me overreacting? My main point is that O’Neill is a very good manager. If his last game is truly down to MON’s handling of him then he ought to be banging MON’s door down to thank him.
This squad doesn’t need taking apart, but it does need 3 or 4 quality signings to give us a chance next season.
The overreaction is assuming Martin is suddenly a great manager based on one game and that he’ll therefore definitely put together a winning team now. I think we’re marginally below par based on the squad we have, think 8/9th would be about right so not too disappointing really. As I said it’s the handling of this situation with carvalho I didn’t like and his reaction to fans chanting.
As for the point about him being an asset, that’s how running a successful team/business works. They invested £13m therefore he automatically has a higher value than most players. Due to FFP and just business sense, you need to protect your biggest assets
M o N actually is a great manager, 24 consecutive wins, 3rd best of all time in the European hemisphere, more than Pep, more than Fergie, Klopp and many, many other achievements.
I think he is working around our strengths, we now actually have solid, brick shithouses who can play a bit, I've always liked the idea of 3 5 2 , yes it becomes 5 3 2 or 5 4 1 but alot of time it has been more like 8.1.1 whatever it takes to get a solid defence, basically a foundation that can enable a lot of offensive expansive options.
We haven't had a defence anywhere near as solid looking as now for many years.
In a way it isn't fair to align those signings to M o N except that M o N despite all his phenomonal achievements is prepared to work as part of a team with the owners and scouting.
In the context of this thread, where actually there isn't any comparison really, AK and maybe the club and the fans were into short termism, hoardes of players in and out and AK wanting to sign anything that moved.
I'm seeing academy players who have seen 25-30 players come and go being first choice due to commitment and work rate.
Football is a business only as much as a Rock Band is a business, you got to be able to play, ideally your own songs that tell a story with passion and meaning that only sometimes the fans get.
If you ain't into the journey or the music … are you really a fan? Fans breed fans, supporters strengthen football clubs.
Good managers find a way to get a tune or hopefully an album and a good gig and then a world tour, but it's for the fans not the non fans.
Get on board.