Dyche Out

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Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

The conversation does get tiresome and the desire to make him out be some kind of Voldemort while being selective is beyond ridiculous. 

It’s just a shame that some can’t see beyond the end of their own prejudice.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

Thought we went to Brentford and won after Wrexham and Dyche was nominated for manager of the month?

We did but werent exactly convincing if I remember, I think its fair to pinpoint the Wrexham game as to when it started unravelling for Dyche.
Sniffer thinks I defend the bloke, I dont, my opinion at the time was stick with him at the time and he would claw us ungracefully over the line. To be honest had we stuck with him we would have lost to Fenerbahce and probably be currently on around 30 points thanks to a few slugged out 0-0s. I am delighted that Vitor has proved there was another way. Think Dyche gets some credit for turning the ship around post Ange but he certainly self destructed very quickly and did himself no favours.

As Wassy said some players let us down too and I had little sympathy with the dont like running in training, As User pointed out stats were showing we were consistently being outrun by opponents. But Vitor has got the whole squad playing together and huge credit for that.

Heard a rumour of Dyche's Payout the other day - £4.5m apparently!

[Reds73]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

Thought we went to Brentford and won after Wrexham and Dyche was nominated for manager of the month?

We did but werent exactly convincing if I remember, I think its fair to pinpoint the Wrexham game as to when it started unravelling for Dyche.
Sniffer thinks I defend the bloke, I dont, my opinion at the time was stick with him at the time and he would claw us ungracefully over the line. To be honest had we stuck with him we would have lost to Fenerbahce and probably be currently on around 30 points thanks to a few slugged out 0-0s. I am delighted that Vitor has proved there was another way. Think Dyche gets some credit for turning the ship around post Ange but he certainly self destructed very quickly and did himself no favours.

As Wassy said some players let us down too and I had little sympathy with the dont like running in training, As User pointed out stats were showing we were consistently being outrun by opponents. But Vitor has got the whole squad playing together and huge credit for that.

Heard a rumour of Dyche's Payout the other day - £4.5m apparently!

Not true.
The reason why Spurs was never a possibility for Dyche, was because as soon as he gets another job, his pay at Forest stops.

That’s why he would only take a job that offers him 2 yrs as a minimum.

[Username]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

Thought we went to Brentford and won after Wrexham and Dyche was nominated for manager of the month?

We did but werent exactly convincing if I remember, I think its fair to pinpoint the Wrexham game as to when it started unravelling for Dyche.
Sniffer thinks I defend the bloke, I dont, my opinion at the time was stick with him at the time and he would claw us ungracefully over the line. To be honest had we stuck with him we would have lost to Fenerbahce and probably be currently on around 30 points thanks to a few slugged out 0-0s. I am delighted that Vitor has proved there was another way. Think Dyche gets some credit for turning the ship around post Ange but he certainly self destructed very quickly and did himself no favours.

As Wassy said some players let us down too and I had little sympathy with the dont like running in training, As User pointed out stats were showing we were consistently being outrun by opponents. But Vitor has got the whole squad playing together and huge credit for that.

Heard a rumour of Dyche's Payout the other day - £4.5m apparently!

Unfortunately this gets lost in the noise and becomes a minor mention in passing. I think people forget how bad it was at the time he was appointed and how fortunate we have been to have got to where we are now. 

With hindsight it appears that sacking Dyche was the right thing to do, and I say that with the benefit of seeing the results that Spurs and West Ham have notched up since Vitor was appointed. 

Long may it continue. 

I don’t see why the contributions of both can’t be properly recognised and appreciated.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

For those who want to discuss Dyche he has his own thread in the down memory lane section of the forum.

This is Vitor's thread and a load of posts will be moved once I have time.

We are on the verge of our biggest game in years tomorrow so why some want to be discussing Dyche is beyond me.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Can we put this Dyche shit to bed once and for all.

The bloke was hated by the players and he was only taking us one way and that was back to the Championship.

Whenever I bring up his name I get grief for it but others seem to discuss him without getting grief.

So can we put it to bed once and for all and never mention his name again?

Horrible bloke and shit manager.

End of.

The conversation does get tiresome and the desire to make him out be some kind of Voldemort while being selective is beyond ridiculous. 

It’s just a shame that some can’t see beyond the end of their own prejudice.

Pot and kettle.

Just for the record before all the Dyche posts get moved I only go on what the players were saying and have said so if you have a pronlem with it then take it up with them.

[DeesideRed]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

I'm certainly much more comfortable with this as an explanation for the drop off rather that the usual tripe. 

In terms of the summer signings, i'm not getting giddy off the back of 2 good games from Bakwa all season. If he can back it up with the assistance of this coaching team then we will of course all be delighted its not £35m wasted. Same goes for NDoye, McAtee etc. 

It also doesnt address the significant disruptive influence the appointment was and the lack of providing any real cover at full back or in goal.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

I'm certainly much more comfortable with this as an explanation for the drop off rather that the usual tripe. 

In terms of the summer signings, i'm not getting giddy off the back of 2 good games from Bakwa all season. If he can back it up with the assistance of this coaching team then we will of course all be delighted its not £35m wasted. Same goes for NDoye, McAtee etc. 

It also doesnt address the significant disruptive influence the appointment was and the lack of providing any real cover at full back or in goal.

Lol.

Straight from the players mouths is tripe?

It doesn't get anymore bona fied than that.

The players couldn't stand him, didn't want to play for him and because of that he would have taken us down.

Like it or not that is the truth and it has been well publicised.

Not sure why it is so difficult to accept or understand that.

[Paplane]

I found Dyche's message a bit gawling the more I heard it. It was like he was telling us fans what was required to be a club in the prem. We know that, we didn't need him coming in and telling us like we're a Milwall type club getting promoted for the first time. I think that's what really rubbed with the Everton fans too before he left there. One Evertonian I was debating with once pointed this out to me. He said they were a big club in a spot of trouble, not a small club desperately clinging on and Dyche was constantly talking them down and coming out with small club mentality stuff. I didn't believe it at the time but now I do. I understand exactly what he was saying now.

If the players also found his words demotivational then I can understand why results began to tail off.

[DeesideRed]

Hard to disagree with the above article really. Results were decent for the most part before even if players weren’t convinced by Dyches methods. After the Wrexham game we were abject from then on.

As for Edu, hopefully this is just a retrospective discussion for the summer. Results and performance have certainly improved with Vitor, im not surprised there is much hard work and analysis behind the friendly smiles. But is it coincidence that Edu was removed from the scene around the same time? Theres not much case for bringing him back IMO.

Its hardly inspirational genius to target younger players with resale value. But that can bring its own problems, we have ground out this season 90% with the team from last season. The ultimate example of it going wrong is the team we have just thumped 0-3. Discuss specifics later but end on a positive, Dilane Bakwa after the Braga game I was convinced was Diakhaby v2. Bit early to say he is a world beater but Vitor has 100% got some useful contributions from him and it was wonderful to see him turning Cucurella (a player I despise) inside out on Sunday. Hope he can keep it up.

Thought we went to Brentford and won after Wrexham and Dyche was nominated for manager of the month?

We did but werent exactly convincing if I remember, I think its fair to pinpoint the Wrexham game as to when it started unravelling for Dyche.
Sniffer thinks I defend the bloke, I dont, my opinion at the time was stick with him at the time and he would claw us ungracefully over the line. To be honest had we stuck with him we would have lost to Fenerbahce and probably be currently on around 30 points thanks to a few slugged out 0-0s. I am delighted that Vitor has proved there was another way. Think Dyche gets some credit for turning the ship around post Ange but he certainly self destructed very quickly and did himself no favours.

As Wassy said some players let us down too and I had little sympathy with the dont like running in training, As User pointed out stats were showing we were consistently being outrun by opponents. But Vitor has got the whole squad playing together and huge credit for that.

Heard a rumour of Dyche's Payout the other day - £4.5m apparently!

I just think anyone who looks on his tenure with any kind of balance like this gets hounded, it is tiresome. 

Ultimately he played his part and it seems pretty clear we are in a better place now under Pereira I think we can all agree.

[Username]

Yep.

None so blind as those cannot see.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]