Next Few Games

[Mcforest]

Would need to go on a champions league contender run of form to get out before Christmas i suspect. It's going to be slow and painful but one we must deal with and support the team to the end.

[Paplane]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

[Reds73]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

That is a very good point.

[Paplane]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

Regardless, the disenfranchising of Nuno (regardless of who was responsible) has set us back a year imo. It was a pure act of self harm and one that other clubs who have improved havent had to cope with.

Saying this season is fine and perfectly normal is pure denial. Its not and its highly unusual for a club that finished 7th to be embedded in the relegation zone just a few months later. Things have gone seriously wrong.

[Jean_claude_killy]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

Regardless, the disenfranchising of Nuno (regardless of who was responsible) has set us back a year imo. It was a pure act of self harm and one that other clubs who have improved havent had to cope with.

Saying this season is fine and perfectly normal is pure denial. Its not and its highly unusual for a club that finished 7th to be embedded in the relegation zone just a few months later. Things have gone seriously wrong.

It wasnt Nuno leaving that was the problem, it was the fact that his replacement decided to employ a kamikaze change management methodology.

It appeared to me that Nuno wanted out, and he got his wish; that may or may not be correct.

What is abundantly clear is the fact that attempting to implement wholesale change in the manner and in the timescale that Ange did, was always destined to fail; and that is not just a football thing, it applies to all walks of life.

If there is one thing gauranteed to piss people off is the mere mention of the word "change".

At least the big fella acknowledged the mistake and acted accordingly, which is good management on his part.

We will come through this tough time and be stronger for it in the long run.

[Paplane]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

Regardless, the disenfranchising of Nuno (regardless of who was responsible) has set us back a year imo. It was a pure act of self harm and one that other clubs who have improved havent had to cope with.

Saying this season is fine and perfectly normal is pure denial. Its not and its highly unusual for a club that finished 7th to be embedded in the relegation zone just a few months later. Things have gone seriously wrong.

It wasnt Nuno leaving that was the problem, it was the fact that his replacement decided to employ a kamikaze change management methodology.

It appeared to me that Nuno wanted out, and he got his wish; that may or may not be correct.

What is abundantly clear is the fact that attempting to implement wholesale change in the manner and in the timescale that Ange did, was always destined to fail; and that is not just a football thing, it applies to all walks of life.

If there is one thing gauranteed to piss people off is the mere mention of the word "change".

At least the big fella acknowledged the mistake and acted accordingly, which is good management on his part.

We will come through this tough time and be stronger for it in the long run.

The Ange mistake was midway through the crisis cycle. Something went wrong in the summer, or perhaps even before then. Was it EM, was it Edu, was it Nuno? We'll never know. All we do know is that one, two or perhaps all 3 of those protagonists allowed a situation to occur that has resulted in our now being 4 points adrift from safety, with a quarter of the season now gone. Appointing Ange was merely another error on top of all that. No other management group in the prem would have allowed such a thing to happen.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Nuno leaving and the appointment of Ange has basically cost us a year of development.

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

Regardless, the disenfranchising of Nuno (regardless of who was responsible) has set us back a year imo. It was a pure act of self harm and one that other clubs who have improved havent had to cope with.

Saying this season is fine and perfectly normal is pure denial. Its not and its highly unusual for a club that finished 7th to be embedded in the relegation zone just a few months later. Things have gone seriously wrong.

It wasnt Nuno leaving that was the problem, it was the fact that his replacement decided to employ a kamikaze change management methodology.

It appeared to me that Nuno wanted out, and he got his wish; that may or may not be correct.

What is abundantly clear is the fact that attempting to implement wholesale change in the manner and in the timescale that Ange did, was always destined to fail; and that is not just a football thing, it applies to all walks of life.

If there is one thing gauranteed to piss people off is the mere mention of the word "change".

At least the big fella acknowledged the mistake and acted accordingly, which is good management on his part.

We will come through this tough time and be stronger for it in the long run.

The Ange mistake was midway through the crisis cycle. Something went wrong in the summer, or perhaps even before then. Was it EM, was it Edu, was it Nuno? We'll never know. All we do know is that one, two or perhaps all 3 of those protagonists allowed a situation to occur that has resulted in our now being 4 points adrift from safety, with a quarter of the season now gone. Appointing Ange was merely another error on top of all that. No other management group in the prem would have allowed such a thing to happen.

Agree with all of that Pap. Possibly a bit harsh saying we are the only club ever to have self harmed in this way, Leicester sort of did it, Wolves are plummeting head first, others have done dumb things.
We are where we are but its so hugely frustrating from being 2nd in the league only a few months ago to have thrown it away to this extent.

Edit. Just for a few hours lets forget all of that, we’re in Europe and Im determined to make the most of it!

[Mcforest]

Points needed against Leeds as after this out next league games are Liverpool and Brighton. Pressure needs to be build on the teams above us so they play with a can't lose attitude, they need the fear that we are coming which creates mistakes.

[Cornish forest]

Development isnt linear.
Getting into Europe put us 3 yrs ahead of schedule.
We will be fine

Regardless, the disenfranchising of Nuno (regardless of who was responsible) has set us back a year imo. It was a pure act of self harm and one that other clubs who have improved havent had to cope with.

Saying this season is fine and perfectly normal is pure denial. Its not and its highly unusual for a club that finished 7th to be embedded in the relegation zone just a few months later. Things have gone seriously wrong.

It wasnt Nuno leaving that was the problem, it was the fact that his replacement decided to employ a kamikaze change management methodology.

It appeared to me that Nuno wanted out, and he got his wish; that may or may not be correct.

What is abundantly clear is the fact that attempting to implement wholesale change in the manner and in the timescale that Ange did, was always destined to fail; and that is not just a football thing, it applies to all walks of life.

If there is one thing gauranteed to piss people off is the mere mention of the word "change".

At least the big fella acknowledged the mistake and acted accordingly, which is good management on his part.

We will come through this tough time and be stronger for it in the long run.

The Ange mistake was midway through the crisis cycle. Something went wrong in the summer, or perhaps even before then. Was it EM, was it Edu, was it Nuno? We'll never know. All we do know is that one, two or perhaps all 3 of those protagonists allowed a situation to occur that has resulted in our now being 4 points adrift from safety, with a quarter of the season now gone. Appointing Ange was merely another error on top of all that. No other management group in the prem would have allowed such a thing to happen.

Agree with all of that Pap. Possibly a bit harsh saying we are the only club ever to have self harmed in this way, Leicester sort of did it, Wolves are plummeting head first, others have done dumb things.
We are where we are but its so hugely frustrating from being 2nd in the league only a few months ago to have thrown it away to this extent.

Edit. Just for a few hours lets forget all of that, we’re in Europe and Im determined to make the most of it!

Don’t think it’s harsh. Both of those teams declined over several seasons, ours has taken less than a season. 
Last December articles were written about if we were serious title challengers. Now we are bottom 2.  
Are we as well run as Brentford, Bournemouth et Al ? 
Or are we just good at throwing money at stuff? 
But as you say not a debate for now, but I think that debate is coming.

[JollyLollyAussie]

Problem we have Cornish is that EM and the fan base want it ALL NOW! Club needs to be rebuilt at a slower pace on solid foundations, things came to us so fast last season and we have become expentant and spoilt. I have no issue if we had to go down this season and back-up the following year but on a solid base and a long term plan for the club inclusive of ALL elements like the ground re-build, strenghten the player intake of the academy, find a young coach who plays good football and ethos and longer term planning from the higher management of the club.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Sounds like you are missing Doughty, Arthur, Daine Murphy and Fawaz etc

How shyte, disastrous and boring was all that?

Give me what we have now anytime.