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[Sausage Roll]

Not yet. Palace got the written reasons from UEFA late last week so presumably have had their legal people poring over it since.

[JWJW]

And that is what I see this is.........purely a smoke and mirrors deflection to try to deflect blame on others.............the blame lies solely on CPFC for breaking the rules.

And if CAS decides that no rules were broken, or if any transgression was minor, unintentional or unavoidable, and orders that either UEFA rescind their decision or impose a fine rather than demotion, will you accept that?

Yes of course.

But remember, the CAS cannot invent new rules or change the rules or ask for bending of the rules.  They only go on the rules in place at the time.

They are not interested in fiction, what other clubs did, whats in letters that has nothing to do the CPFC.  They will simply apply the UEFA rules and see if UEFA were correct in their determination of CPFC braking the UEFA rules.

Its that simple.  

Will you accept its completely and totally CPFC fault if the CAS agrees with UEFA ?

[JWJW]

Appreciate the insight from all and the sticking to facts (as interpreted) rather than hurling insults.

I echo the thoughts of many, getting very bored of it all and just want to know either way.

Do we actually have a date for the tribunal yet?

Tribunal normally takes 3 months for a ruling.

Unless your Man City, then it may take 300 years???

[A curious soul]

Bit off topic, but I can’t wait to know for sure we’ll definitely be in Europa so I can get that roundel tattooed on the arm of my new jersey ?

[Paplane]

I've never understood how Parish seems to think he can dis-associate Palace from Textor. Textor has invested money in their club over a few years now. He admitted that he funded the club through covid. He's explained on Talksport how the shareholders would hold weekly meetings but how decisions never went to a vote. That suggests to me that he was involved in the day to day running of the club. As a majority shareholder that's then a problem. He said he realised at the final whistle of the cup final that they had a problem. It's clear that he's been an integral part of the Palace set-up for a while now and Parish wants to paint this picture that he was just some guy tagging on. If that's the case, what was being talked about at their meetings, the weather?

It's likely UEFA have looked at it and decided that if something looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.

[Reds73]

Appreciate the insight from all and the sticking to facts (as interpreted) rather than hurling insults.

I echo the thoughts of many, getting very bored of it all and just want to know either way.

Do we actually have a date for the tribunal yet?

Tribunal normally takes 3 months for a ruling.

Unless your Man City, then it may take 300 years???

Previous CAS cases have been rushed through in less than a week.
This will be the same given the draw is at the beginning of Aug

[Paplane]

Appreciate the insight from all and the sticking to facts (as interpreted) rather than hurling insults.

I echo the thoughts of many, getting very bored of it all and just want to know either way.

Do we actually have a date for the tribunal yet?

Tribunal normally takes 3 months for a ruling.

Unless your Man City, then it may take 300 years???

Previous CAS cases have been rushed through in less than a week.
This will be the same given the draw is at the beginning of Aug

I reckon there's a good chance the draw will be affected by all this. If the decision goes Palace's way then I wouldn't put it past Marinakis making his own legal challenge, as distasteful as we, and the wider football media, would all find that.

[wassy04]

Appreciate the insight from all and the sticking to facts (as interpreted) rather than hurling insults.

I echo the thoughts of many, getting very bored of it all and just want to know either way.

Do we actually have a date for the tribunal yet?

Tribunal normally takes 3 months for a ruling.

Unless your Man City, then it may take 300 years???

Previous CAS cases have been rushed through in less than a week.
This will be the same given the draw is at the beginning of Aug

I reckon there's a good chance the draw will be affected by all this. If the decision goes Palace's way then I wouldn't put it past Marinakis making his own legal challenge, as distasteful as we, and the wider football media, would all find that.

Pretty sure you can't appeal CAS decisions?

[Paplane]

Appreciate the insight from all and the sticking to facts (as interpreted) rather than hurling insults.

I echo the thoughts of many, getting very bored of it all and just want to know either way.

Do we actually have a date for the tribunal yet?

Tribunal normally takes 3 months for a ruling.

Unless your Man City, then it may take 300 years???

Previous CAS cases have been rushed through in less than a week.
This will be the same given the draw is at the beginning of Aug

I reckon there's a good chance the draw will be affected by all this. If the decision goes Palace's way then I wouldn't put it past Marinakis making his own legal challenge, as distasteful as we, and the wider football media, would all find that.

Pretty sure you can't appeal CAS decisions?

No, he wouldn't be able to challenge Palace's decision, but he could presumably take his own legal action on behalf of Forest if CAS trash UEFA's rules. I'm no lawyer but I do know that the Big Man is a street fighter and has been in and out of court/tribunals many many times over the years protecting his and his clubs' interest

[JWJW]

CAS decisions can be challenged in Swiss Courts.

NFFC can challenge the CAS decision in a Swiss court if they feel that there has been an error.


While the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) provides a final and binding resolution for most sporting disputes, in very limited circumstances, CAS decisions can be challenged in Swiss courts. You cannot "sue the CAS sport" in the traditional sense, as it is an independent arbitration body.
When can CAS decisions be challenged?
Swiss courts may review a CAS decision only if:
Essential procedural requirements are not fulfilled: This could include situations where fundamental rules of arbitration were not followed.
The decision may be in breach of national law: If a CAS ruling contradicts a country's national law, it may be subject to review.
Equality of parties or right to be heard was not respected: If a party did not receive a fair hearing or the parties were not treated equally, this could be grounds for appeal.
Lack of jurisdiction: If CAS did not have the authority to rule on the dispute in the first place.
Violation of elementary procedural rules: Similar to the first point, if basic procedural rules were severely violated.
Incompatibility with public policy: If the decision goes against fundamental principles of public order.

[BestwoodRed]

One problem for Palace could be the information supplied to Companies House in the UK. If you follow the trail of companies that make up Crystal Palace only one person is named as the person with significant control...... John Textor!

[Reds73]

No way are CAS over ruling this !