Champions League - Europa League - Conference League

[wassy04]

If Chelsea finish 6th and win Conference League, 7th placed Man City would end up in the Europa League.

8th can still qualify though, if Chelsea were to finish 7th then the Conference League spot goes to 8th (for some arbitrary reason).

So in all likelihood if we beat Chelsea, 8th ends up in the Conference League.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Hmm - so it looks like Chelsea finishing 6th and winning the Conference League *wouldn't* give us a Europa League place if we finished 7th - we'd still be in the Conference League.

The only two scenarios now in which 8th gets into Europe would need either Chelsea to finish 7th and win the Conference League or them to finish 6th, Newcastle to finish 7th and Chelsea to win the Conference League. And in either of those scenarios we'd be in the top 6 at worst.

I think you have misread that. Chelsea finish 6th plus conference league does give 7th Europa. 8th gets nothing

So we can draw with Chelsea and still make Europa League?

Providing Villa and Man City win and then Chelsea win the Conference League?

:Wondering:

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Correct.
There is a weird contradiction. If we are beating Chelsea then we need Villa not to win.
If we are holding Chelsea to a draw we are better off with Villa winning.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Correct.
There is a weird contradiction. If we are beating Chelsea then we need Villa not to win.
If we are holding Chelsea to a draw we are better off with Villa winning.

:Afraid:

[BomberBowyer]

Correct.
There is a weird contradiction. If we are beating Chelsea then we need Villa not to win.
If we are holding Chelsea to a draw we are better off with Villa winning.

Is it not a case of us simply needing to better Villa’s result? A draw v Chelsea and Villa lose means we overtake Villa on GD and get Europa League. Beat Chelsea and Villa draw we have Champions League.

[The reds]

The permutations are already getting too much for me.

We just need to win - to guarentee Europa
If there are any favours for us then that’s a bonus.

[Username]

Just to confirm that if we draw.

Villa lose their remaining game and City lose their remaining two then we get Champions League not Europa?

[Trailer Park Tom]

The permutations are already getting too much for me.

We just need to win - to guarentee Europa
If there are any favours for us then that’s a bonus.

This threads been making my head spin for weeks. Like a mad physicist with loads of equations on a blackboard haha.

[Paplane]

Someone needs to write an app.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Correct.
There is a weird contradiction. If we are beating Chelsea then we need Villa not to win.
If we are holding Chelsea to a draw we are better off with Villa winning.

Is it not a case of us simply needing to better Villa’s result? A draw v Chelsea and Villa lose means we overtake Villa on GD and get Europa League. Beat Chelsea and Villa draw we have Champions League.

In practice yes. Point I was making is we draw and Villa draw we finish 7th and get Conference League. If Villa win that pushes Chelsea to 6th then if Chelsea win conference final next week we get Europa. Yes its bonkers.

[Fumanchew]

Let’s hope the scores filtering through don’t make the crowd jittery next week especially if it’s not going in our favour

[DeesideRed]

Correct.
There is a weird contradiction. If we are beating Chelsea then we need Villa not to win.
If we are holding Chelsea to a draw we are better off with Villa winning.

Is it not a case of us simply needing to better Villa’s result? A draw v Chelsea and Villa lose means we overtake Villa on GD and get Europa League. Beat Chelsea and Villa draw we have Champions League.

In practice yes. Point I was making is we draw and Villa draw we finish 7th and get Conference League. If Villa win that pushes Chelsea to 6th then if Chelsea win conference final next week we get Europa. Yes its bonkers.

3. Newcastle 66pts 22GD - Play Everton H
4. Chelsea 66pts 20GD - Play Forest A
5. Villa 66pts 9GD - Play United A

6. City 65pts 24GD - Play Bournemouth H and Fulham A

7. Forest 65pts 13GD - Play Cheslea H


If that helps.


In the conference final, Betis have not won in 3 games in La Liga, drawing twice before having their backsides handed to them by Athletico. That said they are 6th and cannot finish higher or lower so there may bit of protectionism for the final.