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(21-10-2023, 06:43 PM)The reds Wrote: Honestly think Coopers time is nearly up he has brought us so far but to make them subs today is inexcusable
Taking Boly off was absolutely disgraceful - His excuse was it was a late flight back to the UK - Boly played no minutes in the break
Dominguez why he had a 2 week break no need to take him off
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(21-10-2023, 06:39 PM)northeastred Wrote: Debate all we want. But coops made them subs to give players minutes. I'd of accepted it if we were 4 nil up, to football suicide. Clueless from cooper.
We needed the 3 points you don't take away the full spine of your team to give people minutes. It was obvious they had chances coming from out wide.
Some of the worst game management I've ever seen. Yates for sangare and maybe Williams for Elanga. Other subs in stoppage time.
Sorry to say but I think he'll be gone by Christmas. Unless we pull some freak results out the bag.
Frustrating for him with missed chances but 2-0 is a premier league score we aren't going to score 7.
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I thought at the time it looked like arrogance and complacency. The subs felt unnecessary as for once we had dominated possession and its not like they've played loads of games.
Cooper needs to own this. I'm sure the big man won't be happy.
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(21-10-2023, 06:45 PM)BadDog Wrote: (21-10-2023, 06:43 PM)The reds Wrote: Honestly think Coopers time is nearly up he has brought us so far but to make them subs today is inexcusable
Taking Boly off was absolutely disgraceful - His excuse was it was a late flight back to the UK - Boly played no minutes in the break
Dominguez why he had a 2 week break no need to take him off
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Oh dear lord
Im glad the football geniuses on here are so well up on the individual fitness of our squad.
I do agree making all 3 at once meant we lost momentum but many managers do the same now, personally I dont agree with it.
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(21-10-2023, 07:09 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (21-10-2023, 06:45 PM)BadDog Wrote: (21-10-2023, 06:43 PM)The reds Wrote: Honestly think Coopers time is nearly up he has brought us so far but to make them subs today is inexcusable
Taking Boly off was absolutely disgraceful - His excuse was it was a late flight back to the UK - Boly played no minutes in the break
Dominguez why he had a 2 week break no need to take him off
100%
Oh dear lord
Im glad the football geniuses on here are so well up on the individual fitness of our squad.
I do agree making all 3 at once meant we lost momentum but many managers do the same now, personally I dont agree with it.
Like it or not Marinakis won't take results like that, it was totally avoidable.
That's the facts, dear lord or not.
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Heard Boly asked to come off.
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(21-10-2023, 07:12 PM)BadDog Wrote: (21-10-2023, 07:09 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (21-10-2023, 06:45 PM)BadDog Wrote: (21-10-2023, 06:43 PM)The reds Wrote: Honestly think Coopers time is nearly up he has brought us so far but to make them subs today is inexcusable
Taking Boly off was absolutely disgraceful - His excuse was it was a late flight back to the UK - Boly played no minutes in the break
Dominguez why he had a 2 week break no need to take him off
100%
Oh dear lord
Im glad the football geniuses on here are so well up on the individual fitness of our squad.
I do agree making all 3 at once meant we lost momentum but many managers do the same now, personally I dont agree with it.
Like it or not Marinakis won't take results like that, it was totally avoidable.
That's the facts, dear lord or not.
EM will not like it and without doubt we have dropped 4 points at home that should have been a given.
I remain of the opinion whilst we have more strength in depth and we have at least 2 midfielders capable of holding onto the ball, that we haven’t suddenly become a top 10 side in terms of quality. The whole team dropped off after the 2nd goal, players make errors, it happens.
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This subs narrative is ridiculous, so now he's not meant to make subs? Or he should make less subs? Then he gets criticised for not using all the windows and we finish with 10 players like at Brentford.
Surely the issue is the subs weren't very good. Boly always needs a rest, dominguez looked tired, so did Aurier. Was right to make the changes to freshen up and see off the game.
Also, for anyone that seems to think a new manager would make a massive difference. Just look at the game today between Bournemouth and Wolves. Bournemouth went for the highly rated foreign manager and Wolves took their manager. Look who's doing better. Be careful what you wish for.
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(21-10-2023, 07:54 PM)wassy04 Wrote: This subs narrative is ridiculous, so now he's not meant to make subs? Or he should make less subs? Then he gets criticised for not using all the windows and we finish with 10 players like at Brentford.
Surely the issue is the subs weren't very good. Boly always needs a rest, dominguez looked tired, so did Aurier. Was right to make the changes to freshen up and see off the game.
Also, for anyone that seems to think a new manager would make a massive difference. Just look at the game today between Bournemouth and Wolves. Bournemouth went for the highly rated foreign manager and Wolves took their manager. Look who's doing better. Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah but look, Cooper made some substitutions today we didn't agree with. Surely he should be sacked for that?
Unbelievable isnt it.
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(21-10-2023, 07:59 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (21-10-2023, 07:54 PM)wassy04 Wrote: This subs narrative is ridiculous, so now he's not meant to make subs? Or he should make less subs? Then he gets criticised for not using all the windows and we finish with 10 players like at Brentford.
Surely the issue is the subs weren't very good. Boly always needs a rest, dominguez looked tired, so did Aurier. Was right to make the changes to freshen up and see off the game.
Also, for anyone that seems to think a new manager would make a massive difference. Just look at the game today between Bournemouth and Wolves. Bournemouth went for the highly rated foreign manager and Wolves took their manager. Look who's doing better. Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah but look, Cooper made some substitutions today we didn't agree with. Surely he should be sacked for that?
Unbelievable isnt it.
I’m not saying he should be sacked
We’ve not won since Chelsea Away which is very poor
Plus Cooper has been on the verge multiple times over the last year
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(21-10-2023, 07:59 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (21-10-2023, 07:54 PM)wassy04 Wrote: This subs narrative is ridiculous, so now he's not meant to make subs? Or he should make less subs? Then he gets criticised for not using all the windows and we finish with 10 players like at Brentford.
Surely the issue is the subs weren't very good. Boly always needs a rest, dominguez looked tired, so did Aurier. Was right to make the changes to freshen up and see off the game.
Also, for anyone that seems to think a new manager would make a massive difference. Just look at the game today between Bournemouth and Wolves. Bournemouth went for the highly rated foreign manager and Wolves took their manager. Look who's doing better. Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah but look, Cooper made some substitutions today we didn't agree with. Surely he should be sacked for that?
Unbelievable isnt it.
I dont even disagree with the subs, they made perfect sense at the time. Just very poor execution from the guys that came on.
We were missing CHO, Danilo, Felipe, Aina, Montiel, Taiwo, Tavares, Origi. It really showed in the options we had to bring on.
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(21-10-2023, 08:13 PM)The reds Wrote: (21-10-2023, 07:59 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: (21-10-2023, 07:54 PM)wassy04 Wrote: This subs narrative is ridiculous, so now he's not meant to make subs? Or he should make less subs? Then he gets criticised for not using all the windows and we finish with 10 players like at Brentford.
Surely the issue is the subs weren't very good. Boly always needs a rest, dominguez looked tired, so did Aurier. Was right to make the changes to freshen up and see off the game.
Also, for anyone that seems to think a new manager would make a massive difference. Just look at the game today between Bournemouth and Wolves. Bournemouth went for the highly rated foreign manager and Wolves took their manager. Look who's doing better. Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah but look, Cooper made some substitutions today we didn't agree with. Surely he should be sacked for that?
Unbelievable isnt it.
I’m not saying he should be sacked
We’ve not won since Chelsea Away which is very poor
Plus Cooper has been on the verge multiple times over the last year
We've also only lost away at Man City since that game. Lots of draws, this is what midtable looks like.
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