The Premier League 2022/23

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

How the bloody hell can beating France, Spain and Portugal twice all within the space of 2 weeks be a fluke?

Wassy I admire your blind loyalty towards Cooper it is admirable.

Personally I prefer to have my eyes and options open whilst continuing to hope Steve can turn things around.

That is all.

[wassy04]

How the bloody hell can beating France, Spain and Portugal twice all within the space of 2 weeks be a fluke?

Wassy I admire your blind loyalty towards Cooper it is admirable.

Personally I prefer to have my eyes and options open whilst continuing to hope Steve can turn things around.

That is all.

I said it was insane achievement, you generally need luck to win a tournament too.

I really fail to see what's this got to do with Cooper or Forest though?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It's about the importance of having the right coach at the right time for the right group of player's Wassy.

The point I have been trying to make is that a team can look shit under one coach but the same team can look good under another coach.

That is all I have been trying to say.

[Paplane]

How the bloody hell can beating France, Spain and Portugal twice all within the space of 2 weeks be a fluke?

Wassy I admire your blind loyalty towards Cooper it is admirable.

Personally I prefer to have my eyes and options open whilst continuing to hope Steve can turn things around.

That is all.

That's exactly where I am. I'm generally in favour of sticking with managers, not sacking them. I was against the sacking of Hughton and Sabri up to the point where it became patently obvious that the relationship between players/manager and club was gone. I really want/hope that Cooper can sort us out and I think he is a good coach but good coaches don't always achieve success and sometimes things don't work out for them at clubs for all kinds of reasons. When I saw things going from bad to worse on the pitch (up to and including the Leicester game) I began to question the reason for the worsening performances. They were going from poor to extremely poor. Then Cooper did exactly what I thought was required and dug his side in to stop the flow of goals conceded. My faith was restored in him and then it looked great v Liverpool when we showed we could stay tight but also have some offensive capability too. All good, signs of progress, maybe we are getting better I thought.  And then all that went out of the window at Arsenal last week and we were back at square one, as if the two or three weeks previously had never happened. Embarrassing performance on the pitch, 5 goals leaked, look like conceding at every single opposition attack, never looked like scoring. We looked every bit the team that will finish bottom 15/20 points adrift of 17th. No manager survives a season like that.

[wassy04]

How the bloody hell can beating France, Spain and Portugal twice all within the space of 2 weeks be a fluke?

Wassy I admire your blind loyalty towards Cooper it is admirable.

Personally I prefer to have my eyes and options open whilst continuing to hope Steve can turn things around.

That is all.

That's exactly where I am. I'm generally in favour of sticking with managers, not sacking them. I was against the sacking of Hughton and Sabri up to the point where it became patently obvious that the relationship between players/manager and club was gone. I really want/hope that Cooper can sort us out and I think he is a good coach but good coaches don't always achieve success and sometimes things don't work out for them at clubs for all kinds of reasons. When I saw things going from bad to worse on the pitch (up to and including the Leicester game) I began to question the reason for the worsening performances. They were going from poor to extremely poor. Then Cooper did exactly what I thought was required and dug his side in to stop the flow of goals conceded. My faith was restored in him and then it looked great v Liverpool when we showed we could stay tight but also have some offensive capability too. All good, signs of progress, maybe we are getting better I thought.  And then all that went out of the window at Arsenal last week and we were back at square one, as if the two or three weeks previously had never happened. Embarrassing performance on the pitch, 5 goals leaked, look like conceding at every single opposition attack, never looked like scoring. We looked every bit the team that will finish bottom 15/20 points adrift of 17th. No manager survives a season like that.

I'm not disagreeing that a new coach might come in and do better. What I'm saying is that the other teams around us are good so changing manager or keeping the same manager, it's going to be difficult. We're at par right now, we have two winnable home games, only 3 off 17th. That's about where I'd expect to be so we're not underachieving. I'm not saying a new coach couldn't come in and improve the team. I'm saying it's unlikely because the other teams around us have better teams.

[Shawoddyred]

How the bloody hell can beating France, Spain and Portugal twice all within the space of 2 weeks be a fluke?

Wassy I admire your blind loyalty towards Cooper it is admirable.

Personally I prefer to have my eyes and options open whilst continuing to hope Steve can turn things around.

That is all.

That's exactly where I am. I'm generally in favour of sticking with managers, not sacking them. I was against the sacking of Hughton and Sabri up to the point where it became patently obvious that the relationship between players/manager and club was gone. I really want/hope that Cooper can sort us out and I think he is a good coach but good coaches don't always achieve success and sometimes things don't work out for them at clubs for all kinds of reasons. When I saw things going from bad to worse on the pitch (up to and including the Leicester game) I began to question the reason for the worsening performances. They were going from poor to extremely poor. Then Cooper did exactly what I thought was required and dug his side in to stop the flow of goals conceded. My faith was restored in him and then it looked great v Liverpool when we showed we could stay tight but also have some offensive capability too. All good, signs of progress, maybe we are getting better I thought.  And then all that went out of the window at Arsenal last week and we were back at square one, as if the two or three weeks previously had never happened. Embarrassing performance on the pitch, 5 goals leaked, look like conceding at every single opposition attack, never looked like scoring. We looked every bit the team that will finish bottom 15/20 points adrift of 17th. No manager survives a season like that.

I'm not disagreeing that a new coach might come in and do better. What I'm saying is that the other teams around us are good so changing manager or keeping the same manager, it's going to be difficult. We're at par right now, we have two winnable home games, only 3 off 17th. That's about where I'd expect to be so we're not underachieving. I'm not saying a new coach couldn't come in and improve the team. I'm saying it's unlikely because the other teams around us have better teams.

The problem I have here is that you're definitively saying that other teams have better players. This is an opinion that not all of us completely agree with.

[Shawoddyred]

I don't know why, but I'm now feeling relatively optimistic that we'll do enough this year to stay up. I think there are a lot of very average teams (including us) but I think we'll get what we need in January and kick on after the world Cup. Genuinely believe a couple of players....cf and cb.... if the right players will transform us.

The fact we're not cut adrift at the bottom after being so shite, so often can only be a real positive.

Huge game next week..... as they pretty much all are!

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Leicester have won 0-2 at Everton.

[Paplane]

Leicester have won 0-2 at Everton.

We wont be seeing much more of them around our end of the table now. Villa will follow them too.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Wolves have also appointed the ex Real Madrid and Sevillia manager.

[Paplane]

Wolves have also appointed the ex Real Madrid and Sevillia manager.

At least Bournemouth are on the slide now to take their place. For us to stay up its going to take a club like Wolves and Villa to go down. It ain't happpening. 

Bottom 3 will be us, Bournemouth, and Southampton or Everton.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Just watched the Man City Fulham highlights and their pen. As poor a decision as it was (bloody ridiculous IMO) the original decision by the ref was pen which stood so fair enough.

VAR is there to correct clear and obvious errors which makes me even more angry about our decision today. There was no clear and obvious error by the ref, some idiot watching 6 screens in slo mo decides there might have been a borderline contact. But our decision on the field gets overturned.
I would seriously have lost my shit if the goal at the end was given offside.

Stupid system brought about by PL managers whinging to deflect from their team’s performance to save their own necks and now we are all paying.

The only thing that will happen though is that Forest will get a fine for the bottle that was lobbed in the direction of the ref as he walked off at half time.