Nottingham Forest - Fulham

[Madforit]

Our midfield is the main problem or lack of it, O'Brien has to be a starter and Yates needs to be on the bench, he just isn't up to the task, talking of the bench Johnson needs to be on it also.

Cooper needs to be looking at himself and he needs to be putting it right and pretty bloody quickly, because this cannot be allowed to continue, he looked like a man who doesn't know how to put it right, picking player's that are not up to the job is not going to win us games and playing three at the back is giving the opposition the green light to attack us, we are going to struggle but I honestly thought that we'd put up more of a fight of it, this is beyond shocking.

[ozzyten10]

MGW- I don’t get it. Listening to radio Nottingham after and thought they must have been watching a different game.
We are so naive it is untrue. First half we were a bit lucky to be 1-0 up but defended like lions. Second half we start well and then concede as Yates loses his man on the corner. A corner which was also avoidable. Any way shit happens and we then need to get going again. We then have a cheap turnover and Yates is too slow to close down the man on the edge of the box. Then the third goal- Yates under hits a pass and Boly goes walkabout leaving BDR with all the room in the world to pick out obrien lookalike who was running the game.
We need to be more pragmatic. 1-0 up and defending well. 1-1 we then seemed to go hung ho and get done on the turnover twice in 3 minutes.
Yates is also at fault for all 3 goals. I like Yates but f**k me - watch the goals again - 3 reasons why he should be playing.
We then go to 4231 which actually clearly suits this years squad and is a formation that cooper has liked and used in previous jobs and we start getting a run of steam and score after a piece of quality by Lingard that MGW had been trying all night.
We then lose all resemblance of shape by further subs which we decide MGW and Yates share the right back spot.
We are awful in structure and shape.
Cooper deserves time to sort this out but I don’t think he’ll get it. I’m sure cooper has sanctioned half of this squad and Dyche the other half. I expect him in by World Cup.
Also Henderson may be a bit of a prick. He clearly had a go at cooper after the third goal. Not a good look.

Sorry it’s a rant but after 23 years how have we f****d this up so much?

[ozzyten10]

I’d just like to say a big well done to surridge and obrien. Great cameos…

[wassy04]

Gibbs White has done absolutely nothing.

Nothing that has come off and created a goal maybe. He over complicates and loses the ball to often too.  In my opinion though He is the one bit of real quality in the team. This year’s Carvalho?

He had three great chances to play through balls before they scored, all of which were underhit. Does a couple of flair touches but otherwise so far has done nothing. Hope he does come good but I'm unconvinced so far.

[wassy04]

We get away with the luxury of Johnson in the Championship... In the PL his weakness is causing us to be overrun and ship goals in.

He must be dropped.  It cannot continue.

So the guy playing up front is at fault for us conceding three goals?!

[wassy04]

Where to start…

The folly of signing 22 players, Cooper clearly doesnt know his best team. Is he allowed to pick the team he wants regardless?

Concede 3 at home to to of the teams that will probably finish near the bottom is trouble. The back 3 again played like they have just met at times. Lodi is good but goes missing too.

Some say stop picking Championship players. He did, he played a former captain of a Serie A team who has played in the Champions League. Freuler proceeds to give an excellent impersonation of Gary Holt. For those who didnt see it Im damn serious.

The formation at the end was desperate and ridiculous, effectively 6 forwards and we didn't create a single chance with them.

Positives. MGW looks the only one of the incomings to have genuine Premier League quality. Getting the ball to him and players running off him is pur only chance of survival.
OBrien should be starting every game, our best midfielder by a mile.

Freuler was pretty bad wasn't he? I am starting to get concerned that there's been more misses than hits with the transfer business so far.

Taiwo - yes he scored (from a corner) but he did not look good. His touch is just so bad, it just bounces off him.
MGW - kept underhitting passes in good positions, created nothing again but apparently Brennan is the luxury...
Freuler - I think I see why Cooper was refusing to play him.
Boly -  Lol
Dennis - his handball attempt to control it at the end was pretty funny.

All of the above are worrying so far, not saying they won't improve and offer something bit right now it's concerning. Hopefully we stick with 4231, O'Brien seems to be much smoother on the ball than either Freuler or Yates were.

[ozzyten10]

31 games- 34 points. We are well behind schedule!

[ozzyten10]

And to the twatty kid who f****d up the minutes silence - don’t ever come to a match again

[JWJW]

The system does not work.

Johnson was not at fault for the goals - however - he has been a waste of a shirt.

He is not holding then ball up. He is losing possession. He is defensively poor. Playing him is akin to playing with 10 men. Even the second goal it was a fluke that his piss poor cross got to LOB in the end.

So - yes - he is part of the reason we are shipping goals in - 12 goals conceded in 3 games.

We do not have the centre backs to play a back 5.

We need for now to be playing a flat back 4.

Then we have an extra man in midfield.

I said at half time we look awful. We did. We constantly just let them have the ball and try to attack us. They dominated us in the 1st half.

This all has to stop. If we have any chance of staying up Cooper has to forgot Johnson. He has to forget Yates. He has to play a flat back 4.

If we started the game with LOB, Kouyate and Freuler in the middle the result would likely have been different.

I dont think Cooper has it in him to be a manager at PL level - I hope he proves me wrong - but successful PL managers are ruthless.

Cooper is out of his depth at the moment - and living on the goodwill of EM now.

Was most of the success last season due to Stephen Reid ? Are we actually missing having him ?

We are clueless on the ball, we are hoofing it far too often, out centre backs are not up to it.

McKenna is not PL level. Nor is Cook now. Nor is Worrall. They might be great in the Championship but they are not good enough for the PL.

[northeastred]

The system does not work.

Johnson was not at fault for the goals - however - he has been a waste of a shirt.

He is not holding then ball up. He is losing possession.  He is defensively poor. Playing him is akin to playing with 10 men.  Even the second goal it was a fluke that his piss poor cross got to LOB in the end.

So - yes - he is part of the reason we are shipping goals in - 12 goals conceded in 3 games.

We do not have the centre backs to play a back 5.

We need for now to be playing a flat back 4.

Then we have an extra man in midfield.

I said at half time we look awful.  We did. We constantly just let them have the ball and try to attack us.  They dominated us in the 1st half.

This all has to stop.  If we have any chance of staying up Cooper has to forgot Johnson.  He has to forget Yates.  He has to play a flat back 4.

If we started the game with LOB, Kouyate and Freuler in the middle the result would likely have been different.

I dont think Cooper has it in him to be a manager at PL level - I hope he proves me wrong - but successful PL managers are ruthless.

Cooper is out of his depth at the moment - and living on the goodwill of EM now.

Was most of the success last season due to Stephen Reid ?  Are we actually missing having him ? 

We are clueless on the ball, we are hoofing it far too often, out centre backs are not up to it.

McKenna is not PL level.  Nor is Cook now.  Nor is Worrall.    They might be great in the Championship but they are not good enough for the PL.

You can add to that the stubbornness of not giving dennis more time, I got a dm on twitter saying cooper didn't want him, and evangelos bought him as he wanted a proven premiership striker, shows that it'd true.. he's going to do f**k all in 6 mins here 8 mins there.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Positives:

- I finally have something in common financially with Marinakis Snr, my kids go out and waste all my money on a load of crap too.

You win the forum tonight with that sentence Zico!

I think that is a bit harsh and even a tad ungrateful.

I think some are barking up the wrong tree.

Most if not all of our signings arrived with a really good pedigree.

Perhaps it's the player's who were already here who are struggling the most or the ones Cooper was really begging for like Williams and MGW. Williams final ball, shooting and crossing is shocking. Worrall struggling, Mckenna struggling, Yates struggling, Johnson struggling, Cook struggling.

[northeastred]

Positives:

- I finally have something in common financially with Marinakis Snr, my kids go out and waste all my money on a load of crap too.

You win the forum tonight with that sentence Zico!

I think that is a bit harsh and even a tad ungrateful.

I think some are barking up the wrong tree.

Most if not all of our signings arrived with a really good pedigree.

Perhaps it's the player's who were already here who are struggling the most or the ones Cooper was really begging for like Williams and MGW. Williams final ball, shooting and crossing is shocking. Worrall struggling, Mckenna struggling, Yates struggling, Johnson struggling, Cook struggling.

Williams is a odd one.. first few games he was outstanding.. taking players on, whipping in good balls... I mean that link up with taiwo in the west ham game was a joy to watch.. its like he's been told to stop, also Lodi, one of the best attacking left backs going.. there was a reason man city wanted him, he's came here and hardly gets up the wing, we have gone from a back 3 with wing backs, to a flat back 5

We have changed our system from last year and its awful, everyone can see it,

We're lacking pace in the cb department, brought in Bade and he can't even make the bench

Johnson is a passenger 80% of the time, 20% of the time were waiting for something to happen which hardly does

Mgw, great footballer, very  talented, but zinck did the role a lot better, and would of cost alot less

We're trying to change what we're good at instead of sticking with it,

Yates at blame for all the goals last night.. his half bothered attempt at trying to stop the last one was a joke

It all needs ripping up, the loyalty and sentiment needs to go, feel cooper is not willing to do that, but evangelos might do, 7 games in and a good chance of staying up, with or without coops.. it just needs sorting asap