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(01-05-2022, 04:40 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:29 PM)Username Wrote: Can anyone explain to me why Christie got booked when we scored our first goal please?

It was a complete clusterfook, Scott is not a great referee IMO.

Deliberate handball.

I understand where you are coming from,  if it was a deliberate hand ball after the goal the ball was dead? if it was a deliberate handball before the goal then the red card should have stood and a penalty given as it was, he handled it after the goal so no red and surely not a yellow.
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(01-05-2022, 04:59 PM)Floridared Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:40 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:29 PM)Username Wrote: Can anyone explain to me why Christie got booked when we scored our first goal please?

It was a complete clusterfook, Scott is not a great referee IMO.

Deliberate handball.

I understand where you are coming from,  if it was a deliberate hand ball after the goal the ball was dead? if it was a deliberate handball before the goal then the red card should have stood and a penalty given as it was, he handled it after the goal so no red and surely not a yellow.

unsporting behaviour, a goal had been scored and deliberately tried to conceal the fact. he tried to cheat and got caught. also I assume the refs whistle had not been blown yet, so technically all is in play.
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(01-05-2022, 05:06 PM)McDurban Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:59 PM)Floridared Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:40 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:29 PM)Username Wrote: Can anyone explain to me why Christie got booked when we scored our first goal please?

It was a complete clusterfook, Scott is not a great referee IMO.

Deliberate handball.
There's no issue with the ball "being dead" as far as cauttons are concerned. Players can be booked or sent off if they commit an offence even before the game has started which is rare but, more commonly after the final whistle. He was cautioned for gaining an advantage(or trying to) by deliberately handling the ball. Of course goaline technology helped him out.
I understand where you are coming from,  if it was a deliberate hand ball after the goal the ball was dead? if it was a deliberate handball before the goal then the red card should have stood and a penalty given as it was, he handled it after the goal so no red and surely not a yellow.

unsporting behaviour, a goal had been scored and deliberately tried to conceal the fact. he tried to cheat and got caught. also I assume the refs whistle had not been blown yet, so technically all is in play.
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(01-05-2022, 05:40 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 05:06 PM)McDurban Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:59 PM)Floridared Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:40 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 04:29 PM)Username Wrote: Can anyone explain to me why Christie got booked when we scored our first goal please?

It was a complete clusterfook, Scott is not a great referee IMO.

Deliberate handball.
There's no issue with the ball "being dead" as far as cauttons are concerned. Players can be booked or sent off if they commit an offence even before the game has started which is rare but, more commonly after the final whistle. He was cautioned for gaining an advantage(or trying to) by deliberately handling the ball. Of course goaline technology helped him out.
I understand where you are coming from,  if it was a deliberate hand ball after the goal the ball was dead? if it was a deliberate handball before the goal then the red card should have stood and a penalty given as it was, he handled it after the goal so no red and surely not a yellow.

unsporting behaviour, a goal had been scored and deliberately tried to conceal the fact. he tried to cheat and got caught. also I assume the refs whistle had not been blown yet, so technically all is in play.
Both those reasons make sense thanks
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It can’t be deliberate handball, the ball was dead at the point he touched it, even if the whistle was blown after.

I also didn’t see any unsporting behaviour, I don’t think he tried to conceal the goal, he was on the floor starfished.

I’ve watched it a couple of times now and it’s a weird decision no matter how you look at it.
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(01-05-2022, 05:51 PM)Username Wrote: It can’t be deliberate handball, the ball was dead at the point he touched it, even if the whistle was blown after.

I also didn’t see any unsporting behaviour, I don’t think he tried to conceal the goal, he was on the floor starfished.

I’ve watched it a couple of times now and it’s a weird decision no matter how you look at it.

No such thing as a dead ball in terms of cautions or sendings off.
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The ref was unaware that the ball had crossed the line, failure of Hawkeye equivalent, so gave the red card and the penalty.

"Hawkeye" confirmed that the ball had crossed the line therefore a goal, red card rescinded and possibly given a yellow for his attempt to prevent a goal when the last person blah blah blah.
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(01-05-2022, 06:57 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 05:51 PM)Username Wrote: It can’t be deliberate handball, the ball was dead at the point he touched it, even if the whistle was blown after.

I also didn’t see any unsporting behaviour, I don’t think he tried to conceal the goal, he was on the floor starfished.

I’ve watched it a couple of times now and it’s a weird decision no matter how you look at it.

No such thing as a dead ball in terms of cautions or sendings off.

There is for deliberate handball
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(01-05-2022, 07:56 PM)stefanduma Wrote: The ref was unaware that the ball had crossed the line, failure of Hawkeye equivalent, so gave the red card and the penalty.

"Hawkeye" confirmed that the ball had crossed the line therefore a goal, red card rescinded and possibly given a yellow for his attempt to prevent a goal when the last person blah blah blah.

That literally makes no sense
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In my opinion, he should not have been booked. He had initally tried to head the ball away (brave to attempt) but headed it over the line. He then hooked the ball out of the net, after it had crossed the line in frustration. The fact here is the ball had crossed the line. It was a goal. Yes he did hook the ball back over the line after it had gone in, but surely, that is no different to players that boot the ball away or punch it in frustration.
IMO a red card would have been the correct decision if the ball was deemed not to have crossed the line, but seeing as it did, he should not have been booked. Not that it makes any difference either way of course!
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(01-05-2022, 06:57 PM)Ciscokid Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 05:51 PM)Username Wrote: It can’t be deliberate handball, the ball was dead at the point he touched it, even if the whistle was blown after.

I also didn’t see any unsporting behaviour, I don’t think he tried to conceal the goal, he was on the floor starfished.

I’ve watched it a couple of times now and it’s a weird decision no matter how you look at it.

No such thing as a dead ball in terms of cautions or sendings off.

yeah, you can get a yellow or red once the final has whistle has gone can't you?
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(01-05-2022, 09:06 PM)Tricky Wrote: In my opinion, he should not have been booked. He had initally tried to head the ball away (brave to attempt) but headed it over the line. He then hooked the ball out of the net, after it had crossed the line in frustration. The fact here is the ball had crossed the line. It was a goal. Yes he did hook the ball back over the line after it had gone in, but surely, that is no different to players that boot the ball away or punch it in frustration.
IMO a red card would have been the correct decision if the ball was deemed not to have crossed the line, but seeing as it did, he should not have been booked. Not that it makes any difference either way of course!

nah, he tried to cheat imo
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