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(24-01-2022, 10:08 PM)Username Wrote: (24-01-2022, 09:21 PM)zicorice Wrote: Watching Blackburn v Boro. Just seen as well as two right backs on the pitch, Boro have Lee Peltier on the bench who whilst a utility player is actually a right back by trade!
All three of them put together are not as good as Spence!!
Isaiah Jones is probably the best right back in the league.
Was a bit of a throwaway comment based on how fantastic Spence has been and how much of an off night Jones was having last night. Comparisons are interesting though, albeit mostly based on 4 sightings of Jones (plus a few googled stats).
- Both super fast, foot race would be very tight.
-Jones appears a bit more composed in final 3rd, though last night blazed over bar from silly angle when easy pass to team mate would be almost certain goal, also terrible touch when put in near by line. However 1 goal and 6 assists so far.
-Spence has 1 goal and no assists (though pen won should count). But lots of goal involvements. (Can't find numbers of each to compare,).
-Both have lack of concentration moments in defence, but 1v1 both are near unbeatable.
-Spence significantly better in air.
-Both drive their team forward.
-This season Soccerbase has both with very similar overall scores, Spence marginally, though insignificantly higher (by 0.02).
-Both similar age.
I would normally say that Jones has come from non league so has most potential, however Spence has a more athletic physique and was released by Fulham and not wanted by Boro so something drastic must have changed? (Cooper's influence,?).
In short, Both are a good fit where they are. I still wouldn't swap Spence for Jones (even if the other 2 were thrown in) due to his importance to us plus I'm old fashioned and like my full backs to be strong headers of the ball especially at back post.
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Spence did have his moments earlier in the season, defensively, but he's really come on since proving quite robust.
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(25-01-2022, 10:16 AM)zicorice Wrote: (24-01-2022, 10:08 PM)Username Wrote: (24-01-2022, 09:21 PM)zicorice Wrote: Watching Blackburn v Boro. Just seen as well as two right backs on the pitch, Boro have Lee Peltier on the bench who whilst a utility player is actually a right back by trade!
All three of them put together are not as good as Spence!!
Isaiah Jones is probably the best right back in the league.
Was a bit of a throwaway comment based on how fantastic Spence has been and how much of an off night Jones was having last night. Comparisons are interesting though, albeit mostly based on 4 sightings of Jones (plus a few googled stats).
- Both super fast, foot race would be very tight.
-Jones appears a bit more composed in final 3rd, though last night blazed over bar from silly angle when easy pass to team mate would be almost certain goal, also terrible touch when put in near by line. However 1 goal and 6 assists so far.
-Spence has 1 goal and no assists (though pen won should count). But lots of goal involvements. (Can't find numbers of each to compare,).
-Both have lack of concentration moments in defence, but 1v1 both are near unbeatable.
-Spence significantly better in air.
-Both drive their team forward.
-This season Soccerbase has both with very similar overall scores, Spence marginally, though insignificantly higher (by 0.02).
-Both similar age.
I would normally say that Jones has come from non league so has most potential, however Spence has a more athletic physique and was released by Fulham and not wanted by Boro so something drastic must have changed? (Cooper's influence,?).
In short, Both are a good fit where they are. I still wouldn't swap Spence for Jones (even if the other 2 were thrown in) due to his importance to us plus I'm old fashioned and like my full backs to be strong headers of the ball especially at back post.
Fullbacks that can head the ball. Oh yes.
You don't want someone like Alan Rogers who struggled on the back post. Too short, couldn't head...
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Warnock didn’t want Spence because he wanted his 1st lieutenant Lee Peltier in his squad even though he is ancient and a carthorse. He also had Dijksteel and Jones to fit in so someone had to be left out.
Think Jones os much more of an orthodox winger than a wing back, Spence is the more versatile one with equal ability forward and defensively, for that reason he is probably worth a fair bit more.
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Daryl Dike is out injured for 8 weeks for west brom already. Thought he was a good signing for a side who desperately needed a goal scorer, big chance to catch them now I think.
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(25-01-2022, 01:11 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Daryl Dike is out injured for 8 weeks for west brom already. Thought he was a good signing for a side who desperately needed a goal scorer, big chance to catch them now I think.
Sorry to say, but that is great news. He will then be injured in Feb and Mar which should ensure that he misses the next 11 games.
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(25-01-2022, 02:35 PM)GaribaldiRED Wrote: (25-01-2022, 01:11 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Daryl Dike is out injured for 8 weeks for west brom already. Thought he was a good signing for a side who desperately needed a goal scorer, big chance to catch them now I think.
Sorry to say, but that is great news. He will then be injured in Feb and Mar which should ensure that he misses the next 11 games.
they have a week to find a replacement
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We can sell them Lyle for £5m.
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(25-01-2022, 03:09 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: We can sell them Lyle for £5m.
It would be just so typical Forest if we did sell Lyle to them and he goes on and does the business for them.
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(25-01-2022, 02:35 PM)GaribaldiRED Wrote: (25-01-2022, 01:11 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Daryl Dike is out injured for 8 weeks for west brom already. Thought he was a good signing for a side who desperately needed a goal scorer, big chance to catch them now I think.
Sorry to say, but that is great news. He will then be injured in Feb and Mar which should ensure that he misses the next 11 games.
Gari
But yes, it's great news for Forest catching them! :P
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(25-01-2022, 03:09 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: We can sell them Lyle for £5m.
In the drop ball challenge, Grabban, Lyle and Brennan all scored 2 goals each...
Jus' saying.
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(25-01-2022, 10:58 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Warnock didn’t want Spence because he wanted his 1st lieutenant Lee Peltier in his squad even though he is ancient and a carthorse. He also had Dijksteel and Jones to fit in so someone had to be left out.
Think Jones os much more of an orthodox winger than a wing back, Spence is the more versatile one with equal ability forward and defensively, for that reason he is probably worth a fair bit more.
At least Spence has an assist to his name now too. Almost had 2.
Jones really is a cracking player, but I would not swap Spence for any RB in this league right now. What he did for the 3rd goal was unreal.
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