What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Pace was raised by a few of us. It doesnt just have to be direct speed, we had Diakhaby after all, speed of thought, the ability to see a gap, play a one touch through ball, Knockaert is the only addition I can see who has benefitted us.
No for the millionth time I am not suggesting we need even more signings, I am suggesting we didn't need 4 left backs, 3 right backs and 178 central midfielders.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Talking of left backs, get Ioannou back in the team.

[Paplane]

Can those who were lauding our transfer policy this summer explain to me how we have managed to end up with such a slow squad? If there actually was a plan then surely you assess the squad and look to add to qualities we are lacking?
There wasnt that much pace last season, we relied on both full backs, we desperately wanted a bit of additional speed from forward players especially since our style was to play on the break. One of those full backs has departed and we recruited a load of pensioners, It was glaringly obvious to me that we were deficient. It showed last night, we poured numbers forward but it was just so pedestrian we never stretched the opposition defence.
Please dont tell me Mighten is the answer, Yet again its the bloody recruitment.

The biggest mistake in the last 6 months, was sticking with Sabri through the summer, giving him the players he asked for, and then sacking him.

He should have gone straight after the Stoke game.

I’m sure we would have had a very different squad, had Hughton come in with the close season to shape the squad.

I think the epicentre of the current crisis is last winter's transfer window. We desperately needed a backup senior striker to ease the burden on Grabban and and we got no one. We also needed another winger, maybe two, and we got Diakhaby who is the worse player I can ever remember seeing in a Forest shirt. We needed a replacement for Carvalho, say a Freeman or a Tomlin, and again nothing. So Sabri soldiered on, and the load was too much for the squad and we faded. In fact, looking at it in hindsight we fell off a cliff after the Leeds win.

Then, there was no real pre-season to get players rested and fit and some of the new players who came in hadnt played for a while and suffered with fitness. Key players in Watson and Cash left, and there was no time to integrate the new players. Meanwhile the players, nursing the biggest hangover form the capitulation, are looking at Sabri thinking he's a dead man walking.

[wassy04]

Can those who were lauding our transfer policy this summer explain to me how we have managed to end up with such a slow squad? If there actually was a plan then surely you assess the squad and look to add to qualities we are lacking?
There wasnt that much pace last season, we relied on both full backs, we desperately wanted a bit of additional speed from forward players especially since our style was to play on the break. One of those full backs has departed and we recruited a load of pensioners, It was glaringly obvious to me that we were deficient. It showed last night, we poured numbers forward but it was just so pedestrian we never stretched the opposition defence.
Please dont tell me Mighten is the answer, Yet again its the bloody recruitment.

The biggest mistake in the last 6 months, was sticking with Sabri through the summer, giving him the players he asked for, and then sacking him.

He should have gone straight after the Stoke game.

I’m sure we would have had a very different squad, had Hughton come in with the close season to shape the squad.

I think the epicentre of the current crisis is last winter's transfer window. We desperately needed a backup senior striker to ease the burden on Grabban and and we got no one. We also needed another winger, maybe two, and we got Diakhaby who is the worse player I can ever remember seeing in a Forest shirt. We needed a replacement for Carvalho, say a Freeman or a Tomlin, and again nothing. So Sabri soldiered on, and the load was too much for the squad and we faded. In fact, looking at it in hindsight we fell off a cliff after the Leeds win.

Then, there was no real pre-season to get players rested and fit and some of the new players who came in hadnt played for a while and suffered with fitness. Key players in Watson and Cash left, and there was no time to integrate the new players. Meanwhile the players, nursing the biggest hangover form the capitulation, are looking at Sabri thinking he's a dead man walking.

This exactly! This is the point I've been trying to make, they tried to do two window's worth of business in one go which made it harder and led to more mistakes!

[JollyLolly]

Sniffer, I find this really strange but I once again agree with you regards Bringing Ionnnou back into the team as the left wing back (using 3 at the back system), he can cross a ball better then most at our club which is also Christies main strength. I would also like to see big Sami playing in the central no10 role where I believe he would cause mayhem due to even him not knowing what was happing!!! It would also not really matter if he lost the ball in that area and thereby opening us up to the counter attack when playing as a wide man.

[wassy04]

Pace was raised by a few of us. It doesnt just have to be direct speed, we had Diakhaby after all, speed of thought, the ability to see a gap, play a one touch through ball, Knockaert is the only addition I can see who has benefitted us.
No for the millionth time I am not suggesting we need even more signings, I am suggesting we didn't need 4 left backs, 3 right backs and 178 central midfielders.

And McKenna surely? Right but by saying we need more pace you are suggesting we need more signings unless you think we can make current players faster? 

The point I keep trying to make is that the amount of signings wasn't necessarily the issue (although obviously Blackett and Ioannou were clearly not necessary). It was that we had a lot of gaps and they made an attempt to fill them all at once, with players that appeared decent on paper but hasn't worked out so far.

I just don't get that everyone agreed we lacked depth and quality yet when we tried to fix this we've signed too many players?! I get people wish we'd signed some younger players and obviously agree but aside from that I dont get what people wanted. Spend 30m and sign better players? Sign noone and barely have a squad?

[Paplane]

Can those who were lauding our transfer policy this summer explain to me how we have managed to end up with such a slow squad? If there actually was a plan then surely you assess the squad and look to add to qualities we are lacking?
There wasnt that much pace last season, we relied on both full backs, we desperately wanted a bit of additional speed from forward players especially since our style was to play on the break. One of those full backs has departed and we recruited a load of pensioners, It was glaringly obvious to me that we were deficient. It showed last night, we poured numbers forward but it was just so pedestrian we never stretched the opposition defence.
Please dont tell me Mighten is the answer, Yet again its the bloody recruitment.

The biggest mistake in the last 6 months, was sticking with Sabri through the summer, giving him the players he asked for, and then sacking him.

He should have gone straight after the Stoke game.

I’m sure we would have had a very different squad, had Hughton come in with the close season to shape the squad.

I think the epicentre of the current crisis is last winter's transfer window. We desperately needed a backup senior striker to ease the burden on Grabban and and we got no one. We also needed another winger, maybe two, and we got Diakhaby who is the worse player I can ever remember seeing in a Forest shirt. We needed a replacement for Carvalho, say a Freeman or a Tomlin, and again nothing. So Sabri soldiered on, and the load was too much for the squad and we faded. In fact, looking at it in hindsight we fell off a cliff after the Leeds win.

Then, there was no real pre-season to get players rested and fit and some of the new players who came in hadnt played for a while and suffered with fitness. Key players in Watson and Cash left, and there was no time to integrate the new players. Meanwhile the players, nursing the biggest hangover form the capitulation, are looking at Sabri thinking he's a dead man walking.

This exactly! This is the point I've been trying to make, they tried to do two window's worth of business in one go which made it harder and led to more mistakes!

Yep, I think so. And I also think the answer this January is not to go out and buy more players. I would stick to Grosiki coming in, assuming he's interested in playing in a relegation threatened team, sorting the Grabban situation out preferably by getting him fit & firing, or allowing him to go and replacing him with a senior pro (easier said than done). We should extend Knockaert and I'd stick with that.

[wassy04]

Can those who were lauding our transfer policy this summer explain to me how we have managed to end up with such a slow squad? If there actually was a plan then surely you assess the squad and look to add to qualities we are lacking?
There wasnt that much pace last season, we relied on both full backs, we desperately wanted a bit of additional speed from forward players especially since our style was to play on the break. One of those full backs has departed and we recruited a load of pensioners, It was glaringly obvious to me that we were deficient. It showed last night, we poured numbers forward but it was just so pedestrian we never stretched the opposition defence.
Please dont tell me Mighten is the answer, Yet again its the bloody recruitment.

The biggest mistake in the last 6 months, was sticking with Sabri through the summer, giving him the players he asked for, and then sacking him.

He should have gone straight after the Stoke game.

I’m sure we would have had a very different squad, had Hughton come in with the close season to shape the squad.

I think the epicentre of the current crisis is last winter's transfer window. We desperately needed a backup senior striker to ease the burden on Grabban and and we got no one. We also needed another winger, maybe two, and we got Diakhaby who is the worse player I can ever remember seeing in a Forest shirt. We needed a replacement for Carvalho, say a Freeman or a Tomlin, and again nothing. So Sabri soldiered on, and the load was too much for the squad and we faded. In fact, looking at it in hindsight we fell off a cliff after the Leeds win.

Then, there was no real pre-season to get players rested and fit and some of the new players who came in hadnt played for a while and suffered with fitness. Key players in Watson and Cash left, and there was no time to integrate the new players. Meanwhile the players, nursing the biggest hangover form the capitulation, are looking at Sabri thinking he's a dead man walking.

This exactly! This is the point I've been trying to make, they tried to do two window's worth of business in one go which made it harder and led to more mistakes!

Yep, I think so. And I also think the answer this January is not to go out and buy more players. I would stick to Grosiki coming in, assuming he's interested in playing in a relegation threatened team, sorting the Grabban situation out preferably by getting him fit & firing, or allowing him to go and replacing him with a senior pro (easier said than done). We should extend Knockaert and I'd stick with that.

Same exactly, try and clear out a few if possible too. 

Maybe look at central midfield if possible although we do have a lot of players in there already. Can we have Silva back?

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Pap, Honestly I think Grosicki would be an unmitigated disaster.
He is 32, he hasnt played a competitive game since July, he is on premier league wages.
On top of that he has one reason to join us and one reason only, that he wants to get a bit of game time so he can play in the Euros for Poland next summer.
Do you remember Gonzalo Jara before the last world cup? Strolling around the pitch making sure he didnt make any tackles that could risk an injury. Thats what you will get out of Grosicki.

[Paplane]

Pap, Honestly I think Grosicki would be an unmitigated disaster.
He is 32, he hasnt played a competitive game since July, he is on premier league wages.
On top of that he has one reason to join us and one reason only, that he wants to get a bit of game time so he can play in the Euros for Poland next summer.
Do you remember Gonzalo Jara before the last world cup? Strolling around the pitch making sure he didnt make any tackles that could risk an injury. Thats what you will get out of Grosicki.

I get the feeling he's a different type of character though Salv and with the deal seemingly already done, he could be here on Jan 1st. I wonder if there's a way we could sign him but not register him, to allow him to integrate ready for the beginning of Jan? Probabaly be all kinds of red tape preventing that. Insurances etc.

[ThePromisedLand]

Grosicki?
Only if Knockaert goes...

[Username]

Can those who were lauding our transfer policy this summer explain to me how we have managed to end up with such a slow squad? If there actually was a plan then surely you assess the squad and look to add to qualities we are lacking?
There wasnt that much pace last season, we relied on both full backs, we desperately wanted a bit of additional speed from forward players especially since our style was to play on the break. One of those full backs has departed and we recruited a load of pensioners, It was glaringly obvious to me that we were deficient. It showed last night, we poured numbers forward but it was just so pedestrian we never stretched the opposition defence.
Please dont tell me Mighten is the answer, Yet again its the bloody recruitment.

The biggest mistake in the last 6 months, was sticking with Sabri through the summer, giving him the players he asked for, and then sacking him.

He should have gone straight after the Stoke game.

I’m sure we would have had a very different squad, had Hughton come in with the close season to shape the squad.

I disagree, I think we need to stick with the right manager and although Sabri bottled it in my opinion I think we should have recruited properly and let him go again.

In essence he started this season with a weaker starting eleven than he finished the last, which is reality is shameful.