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The cloughy team that got relegated was 'too good to go down'. We couldnt stop conceding goals.
You concede 2 goals a game you get relegated, especially when you only score 1 goal every 6 games.
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Good to finally see young Alex get on the pitch. Connected well with a shot on the edge of the box but blocked. Would like to have seen him on when we weren’t losing. It was more launching it forward at 1-2 so not greatly suiting him. Maybe next match...
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(09-12-2020, 10:10 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:07 PM)Henson Wrote: Taylor off for Guerro, not like we need a goal or anything.
Taylor looked knackered from the start, right decision
Hes been poor for 4 or 5 games now. He's just not equipped to play on his own. And the (very) few half chances he's had he's failed to put away. Grabban cant come back early enough for me.
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(09-12-2020, 10:49 PM)Paplane Wrote: The cloughy team that got relegated was 'too good to go down'. We couldnt stop conceding goals.
You concede 2 goals a game you get relegated, especially when you only score 1 goal every 6 games.
Despite this awful run we are actually still not even in the relegation zone yet. It gets more friendly after Saturday
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(09-12-2020, 10:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:45 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:40 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Pretty hard done by there in the end. Norwich created nothing second half
Or alternatively, they responded after we equalised and only took 4 minutes to regain the lead. There’s a recurring theme, we appear to do better in matches, but we’re already behind...
They had one shot that was probably an unlucky own goal, hardly a dramatic turnaround of form from Norwich
But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
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(09-12-2020, 10:55 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:45 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:40 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Pretty hard done by there in the end. Norwich created nothing second half
Or alternatively, they responded after we equalised and only took 4 minutes to regain the lead. There’s a recurring theme, we appear to do better in matches, but we’re already behind...
They had one shot that was probably an unlucky own goal, hardly a dramatic turnaround of form from Norwich
But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
Do you want us to be bad? You seem to want to read more into this, we were unlucky, commentators (and Norwich fan mates) agreed. Let's hope we can take the momentum from this performance in to the nicer games
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(09-12-2020, 11:01 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:55 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:45 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:40 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Pretty hard done by there in the end. Norwich created nothing second half
Or alternatively, they responded after we equalised and only took 4 minutes to regain the lead. There’s a recurring theme, we appear to do better in matches, but we’re already behind...
They had one shot that was probably an unlucky own goal, hardly a dramatic turnaround of form from Norwich
But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
Do you want us to be bad? You seem to want to read more into this, we were unlucky, commentators (and Norwich fan mates) agreed. Let's hope we can take the momentum from this performance in to the nicer games
Of course I don’t want us to be bad, and I didn’t think we were bad tonight. A lot of effort at least. I think I’m reading into this what’s actually happening. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we deserved a point from it. They dominated the first half until they scored. It was obvious from watching, but if you want some stats it was 66% possession to 34%. 15 shots to 6. 4 shots on target to 0.
We do better after half time, but they had the lead. Then when we equalize so they come straight back at us and take the lead again quickly. Then we ‘do better’ again. There’s a reason for it is what I’m saying, and we can’t think we’ve gone toe to toe with them and been unlucky. The clue is when something keeps happening, it’s not luck.
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I see that John Percy has tonight joined the chorus of criticism.
Though I don’t see that his timing is justified.
If he thought that was bad tonight he can’t have seen much of us this season.
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(09-12-2020, 11:11 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:01 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:55 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:45 PM)stirred Wrote: Or alternatively, they responded after we equalised and only took 4 minutes to regain the lead. There’s a recurring theme, we appear to do better in matches, but we’re already behind...
They had one shot that was probably an unlucky own goal, hardly a dramatic turnaround of form from Norwich
But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
Do you want us to be bad? You seem to want to read more into this, we were unlucky, commentators (and Norwich fan mates) agreed. Let's hope we can take the momentum from this performance in to the nicer games
Of course I don’t want us to be bad, and I didn’t think we were bad tonight. A lot of effort at least. I think I’m reading into this what’s actually happening. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we deserved a point from it. They dominated the first half until they scored. It was obvious from watching, but if you want some stats it was 66% possession to 34%. 15 shots to 6. 4 shots on target to 0.
We do better after half time, but they had the lead. Then when we equalize so they come straight back at us and take the lead again quickly. Then we ‘do better’ again. There’s a reason for it is what I’m saying, and we can’t think we’ve gone toe to toe with them and been unlucky. The clue is when something keeps happening, it’s not luck.
Not sure where you get your stats from - can’t be arsed to check.
But the stats for the full 90 minutes I’m guessing will show a different picture.
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(09-12-2020, 11:11 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:01 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:55 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:45 PM)stirred Wrote: Or alternatively, they responded after we equalised and only took 4 minutes to regain the lead. There’s a recurring theme, we appear to do better in matches, but we’re already behind...
They had one shot that was probably an unlucky own goal, hardly a dramatic turnaround of form from Norwich
But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
Do you want us to be bad? You seem to want to read more into this, we were unlucky, commentators (and Norwich fan mates) agreed. Let's hope we can take the momentum from this performance in to the nicer games
Of course I don’t want us to be bad, and I didn’t think we were bad tonight. A lot of effort at least. I think I’m reading into this what’s actually happening. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we deserved a point from it. They dominated the first half until they scored. It was obvious from watching, but if you want some stats it was 66% possession to 34%. 15 shots to 6. 4 shots on target to 0.
We do better after half time, but they had the lead. Then when we equalize so they come straight back at us and take the lead again quickly. Then we ‘do better’ again. There’s a reason for it is what I’m saying, and we can’t think we’ve gone toe to toe with them and been unlucky. The clue is when something keeps happening, it’s not luck.
Tend to agree. The only game this season which we have won after dominating the game is Wycombe at home. That is the level of our performances so far. We have looked good in spells in other games, but we always make unforced errors which lead to goals for the opposition. We are mentally weak and lack leadership on the field.
A relegation season.
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(09-12-2020, 11:14 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:11 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:01 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:55 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: They had one shot that was probably an unlucky own goal, hardly a dramatic turnaround of form from Norwich
But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
Do you want us to be bad? You seem to want to read more into this, we were unlucky, commentators (and Norwich fan mates) agreed. Let's hope we can take the momentum from this performance in to the nicer games
Of course I don’t want us to be bad, and I didn’t think we were bad tonight. A lot of effort at least. I think I’m reading into this what’s actually happening. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we deserved a point from it. They dominated the first half until they scored. It was obvious from watching, but if you want some stats it was 66% possession to 34%. 15 shots to 6. 4 shots on target to 0.
We do better after half time, but they had the lead. Then when we equalize so they come straight back at us and take the lead again quickly. Then we ‘do better’ again. There’s a reason for it is what I’m saying, and we can’t think we’ve gone toe to toe with them and been unlucky. The clue is when something keeps happening, it’s not luck.
Not sure where you get your stats from - can’t be arsed to check.
But the stats for the full 90 minutes I’m guessing will show a different picture.
Stats from flashscores.
And the second half we edged the stats although one less shot on target, but the timing of them is kind of the point I made.
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(09-12-2020, 11:19 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:14 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:11 PM)stirred Wrote: (09-12-2020, 11:01 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-12-2020, 10:55 PM)stirred Wrote: But it was all that was needed...what followed would have been different otherwise. And when it becomes a pattern it tells you something.
Do you want us to be bad? You seem to want to read more into this, we were unlucky, commentators (and Norwich fan mates) agreed. Let's hope we can take the momentum from this performance in to the nicer games
Of course I don’t want us to be bad, and I didn’t think we were bad tonight. A lot of effort at least. I think I’m reading into this what’s actually happening. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we deserved a point from it. They dominated the first half until they scored. It was obvious from watching, but if you want some stats it was 66% possession to 34%. 15 shots to 6. 4 shots on target to 0.
We do better after half time, but they had the lead. Then when we equalize so they come straight back at us and take the lead again quickly. Then we ‘do better’ again. There’s a reason for it is what I’m saying, and we can’t think we’ve gone toe to toe with them and been unlucky. The clue is when something keeps happening, it’s not luck.
Not sure where you get your stats from - can’t be arsed to check.
But the stats for the full 90 minutes I’m guessing will show a different picture.
Stats from flashscores.
And the second half we edged the stats although one less shot on target, but the timing of them is kind of the point I made.
Fair enough.
We were as bad as I’ve witnessed all season for the first 20 minutes - including so many horrendous examples of just gifting the ball to the opposition when in no danger.
But - for me - we were decent for the last hour ( despite a totally misfunctional midfield ).
Arter ( don’t get me started ), Cafu & Sow would I reckon be the slowest, most cumbersome Reds midfield in living memory.
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