Everton - Nottingham Forest
#73
(06-12-2025, 07:06 PM)GentlemanBob Wrote: These last two games have shown the value of Murillo. The loss of his presence and talent has seriously affected our ability to defend and to move forward. This is no particular criticism of Morato but, to me he is no better than Worrall or even Figuerido.

He is worse than Worrall.

He makes so many mistakes leading to goals.

Why not Cunha gets game time - he has looked good so far - better than Morato for sure.
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#74
(06-12-2025, 11:49 PM)stirred Wrote: I’m not sure what Jesus is meant to do when we’re not creating chances. Is the idea to get a 6’3” target man that is more of a threat from crosses?

He was constantly screaming for the ball to his feet. It constantly got hoofed, were set up to play for a striker who is injured, and probably wont be the same.after his injury, we should have a plan b tactic without wood. We dont
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#75
Slept on it.

It was f*****g awful.

Started terribly with the booking and early goal, finished terribly with CHO putting that free kick straight into the stand (that was shocking) and everything inbetwen was terrible too.

Sort it out Sean because that level of performance is not acceptable.
Panic on the streets of London
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#76
(07-12-2025, 08:26 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Slept on it.

It was f*****g awful.

Started terribly with the booking and early goal, finished terribly with CHO putting that free kick straight into the stand (that was shocking) and everything inbetwen was terrible too.

Sort it out Sean because that level of performance is not acceptable.

Agreed. He doesnt use his subs. We're set up for a target man with no target man. Won't drop players. Just like at Everton where he kept playong Keane who was under performing. We may make 4 managers at this rate
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#77
(07-12-2025, 08:56 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:26 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Slept on it.

It was f*****g awful.

Started terribly with the booking and early goal, finished terribly with CHO putting that free kick straight into the stand (that was shocking) and everything inbetwen was terrible too.

Sort it out Sean because that level of performance is not acceptable.

Agreed. He doesnt use his subs. We're set up for a target man with no target man. Won't drop players. Just like at Everton where he kept playong Keane who was under performing. We may make 4 managers at this rate


I don't think that will happen but you never know.

Sean is probably the best man to have in charge for a relegation battle.

The question is can he take us forward in the longer term?
Panic on the streets of London
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#78
(07-12-2025, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:56 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:26 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Slept on it.

It was f*****g awful.

Started terribly with the booking and early goal, finished terribly with CHO putting that free kick straight into the stand (that was shocking) and everything inbetwen was terrible too.

Sort it out Sean because that level of performance is not acceptable.

Agreed. He doesnt use his subs. We're set up for a target man with no target man. Won't drop players. Just like at Everton where he kept playong Keane who was under performing. We may make 4 managers at this rate


I don't think that will happen but you never know.

Sean is probably the best man to have in charge for a relegation battle.

The question is can he take us forward in the longer term?

Think most forest fans know hes just here to keep us up, and the we go again in the summer. Hes not a long term manager for us sadly, we brought in some quality players and they are ether not interested, not suited, or dyche wont play them. The team on paper should be scoring more than 1 against wolves, and should be at least turning up at Everton. Feels grim for spurs sunday too
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#79
Look, we’re firefighting at the moment, disjointed squad, loads of injuries, terrible start to season and Sean is trying to pick things up. Sometimes he will get it wrong but we are still in much better shape than when he got here. Agree he needs to get some of the talent at his disposal playing to their strengths, some of them I suspect we will see are the wrong fit here. Lets give him the season and see where we are at.
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#80
(07-12-2025, 09:48 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:56 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:26 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Slept on it.

It was f*****g awful.

Started terribly with the booking and early goal, finished terribly with CHO putting that free kick straight into the stand (that was shocking) and everything inbetwen was terrible too.

Sort it out Sean because that level of performance is not acceptable.

Agreed. He doesnt use his subs. We're set up for a target man with no target man. Won't drop players. Just like at Everton where he kept playong Keane who was under performing. We may make 4 managers at this rate


I don't think that will happen but you never know.

Sean is probably the best man to have in charge for a relegation battle.

The question is can he take us forward in the longer term?

Think most forest fans know hes just here to keep us up, and the we go again in the summer. Hes not a long term manager for us sadly, we brought in some quality players and they are ether not interested, not suited, or dyche wont play them. The team on paper should be scoring more than 1 against wolves, and should be at least turning up at Everton. Feels grim for spurs sunday too

Which quality players isn’t he playing? 
He can’t play injured players and he is trying to keep some players fresh for a Euro game midweek. 

The reasons for our current predicament have been listed several times over and we all know them, but we are a bottom six side, we won’t finish any higher. 
Bottom six sides more than occasionally put in performances like yesterday’s. 

You can argue we shouldn’t be a bottom six side, but we are far enough into the season now that the league table isn’t lying. 
3 out of our 4 seasons in the Prem have been relegation battles.
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#81
Just imagine if we go down...





Then win the Europa League...







And we are in the Championship and playing in the Champions League  :CUP:
Panic on the streets of London
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#82
(07-12-2025, 10:23 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Just imagine if we go down...





Then win the Europa League...







And we are in the Championship and playing in the Champions League  :CUP:

In a weird sort of way being in Wolves position would probably help us in that regard, ignore the league and concentrate on the cup. Unfortunately we don’t have the luxury that Spurs and Man Utd had of 3 obvious much poorer teams below them. 
Feels like trying to compete in both is going to cost us both…
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#83
(07-12-2025, 10:33 AM)Cornish forest Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 10:23 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Just imagine if we go down...





Then win the Europa League...







And we are in the Championship and playing in the Champions League  :CUP:

In a weird sort of way being in Wolves position would probably help us in that regard, ignore the league and concentrate on the cup. Unfortunately we don’t have the luxury that Spurs and Man Utd had of 3 obvious much poorer teams below them. 
Feels like trying to compete in both is going to cost us both…

Way villa are going they will win it
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#84
(07-12-2025, 10:07 AM)Cornish forest Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 09:48 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 09:43 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:56 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(07-12-2025, 08:26 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Slept on it.

It was f*****g awful.

Started terribly with the booking and early goal, finished terribly with CHO putting that free kick straight into the stand (that was shocking) and everything inbetwen was terrible too.

Sort it out Sean because that level of performance is not acceptable.

Agreed. He doesnt use his subs. We're set up for a target man with no target man. Won't drop players. Just like at Everton where he kept playong Keane who was under performing. We may make 4 managers at this rate


I don't think that will happen but you never know.

Sean is probably the best man to have in charge for a relegation battle.

The question is can he take us forward in the longer term?

Think most forest fans know hes just here to keep us up, and the we go again in the summer. Hes not a long term manager for us sadly, we brought in some quality players and they are ether not interested, not suited, or dyche wont play them. The team on paper should be scoring more than 1 against wolves, and should be at least turning up at Everton. Feels grim for spurs sunday too

Which quality players isn’t he playing? 
He can’t play injured players and he is trying to keep some players fresh for a Euro game midweek. 

The reasons for our current predicament have been listed several times over and we all know them, but we are a bottom six side, we won’t finish any higher. 
Bottom six sides more than occasionally put in performances like yesterday’s. 

You can argue we shouldn’t be a bottom six side, but we are far enough into the season now that the league table isn’t lying. 
3 out of our 4 seasons in the Prem have been relegation battles.

Jair played better in one game than morato has 3.

Refusing to play kalimuendo when jesus is lagging.
Same for mcatee and mgw.
Etc etc.

Like hutchinson, if you dont give them minutes how are they ment to show there worth? It still narked me how we spemt all summer targeting pacey wing backs to sign a 6ft 4 italian greg halford. Infact halford was better defensively
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