What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy

[wassy04]

Colback just needs to up his game, since his return he hasn't really put in real shift, so CH needs to get him to put in some real effort on the pitch and get him to show us all what he is made off,  too many have had a cushy ride and unfortunately he is one of them, the same can be said of a good few of them.

Yeah agreed, last few months it's felt like he's not even playing...

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Colback just needs to up his game, since his return he hasn't really put in real shift, so CH needs to get him to put in some real effort on the pitch and get him to show us all what he is made off,  too many have had a cushy ride and unfortunately he is one of them, the same can be said of a good few of them.

Yeah agreed, last few months it's felt like he's not even playing...

:D

[Strawberry Avenger]

Colback just needs to up his game, since his return he hasn't really put in real shift, so CH needs to get him to put in some real effort on the pitch and get him to show us all what he is made off,  too many have had a cushy ride and unfortunately he is one of them, the same can be said of a good few of them.

Yeah agreed, last few months it's felt like he's not even playing...

Or that he wasn't match fit when he arrived.

Not helped by a trademark Forest preseason.

SA.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Colback isnt a has-been or useless but he is a very limited player IMO and it is always going to take some time for any player who hasnt played competitive football in 18 months to get up to speed.
That’s something we need to bare in mind when we are looking at loans too, in our situation we need someone who can make an impact now, it doesn’t matter if they are 22 or 42 we need players who are match fit. For that reason Krovinovic could be an excellent loan.

Sound!

SA.

[Madforit]

Colback just needs to up his game, since his return he hasn't really put in real shift, so CH needs to get him to put in some real effort on the pitch and get him to show us all what he is made off,  too many have had a cushy ride and unfortunately he is one of them, the same can be said of a good few of them.

Yeah agreed, last few months it's felt like he's not even playing...

There`s always one  :D

[Redreg]

I think the club is clearing the decks , Sow, arter ,bach all look to be allowed to leave then freeman, cafu, Guerrero , dawson Knockaert Christie ,Bong, kornovic all wont be at the club come the summer. we need to survive and regroup in the summer , bring in couple of top signings in Dembele , mowett and a RB , with our quartet of loan signings who have excelled in league 1 returning the squad will look a lot more balanced .

[Sausage Roll]

It's an interesting debate and it'd be good to know which way the club are looking to go. Should we:

- Commit to a long-term strategy where the club defines the style of play and the recruitment team buys players to fit that. It might mean that managers don't have the autonomy to bring in their own players and are hired more as coaches, but it should also mean more continuity - *if* the club stick to it.

- Or should we do what we've done so far and adopt the ethos of whichever manager we bring in? The managers may have more control over signing players, which some fans are calling out for, but that then risks situations like we might have with Arter, where a new manager doesn't fancy certain players for whatever reason.

The first option seems better for the long-term future of the club but we as fans would have to accept that it might mean less control for managers in terms of signings. And personally I don't think the January transfer window when we're battling against relegation is the time to start. Ideally Hughton can bring in a loan/short-term signing or two to keep us up then we can look at things again in the summer.

[Marinakis Red]

It's an interesting debate and it'd be good to know which way the club are looking to go. Should we:

- Commit to a long-term strategy where the club defines the style of play and the recruitment team buys players to fit that. It might mean that managers don't have the autonomy to bring in their own players and are hired more as coaches, but it should also mean more continuity - *if* the club stick to it.

- Or should we do what we've done so far and adopt the ethos of whichever manager we bring in? The managers may have more control over signing players, which some fans are calling out for, but that then risks situations like we might have with Arter, where a new manager doesn't fancy certain players for whatever reason.

The first option seems better for the long-term future of the club but we as fans would have to accept that it might mean less control for managers in terms of signings. And personally I don't think the January transfer window when we're battling against relegation is the time to start. Ideally Hughton can bring in a loan/short-term signing or two to keep us up then we can look at things again in the summer.

It does not have to give them less control they could still pick players they like that fits in with the vision of the club. But some player profiling is required for that, the types you want the age etc, wages too. Statistical data is massive too. The manager before he comes in either goes with the vision or does not take the job. 

It would definitely see a decrease in wasted money.

[Sausage Roll]

It's an interesting debate and it'd be good to know which way the club are looking to go. Should we:

- Commit to a long-term strategy where the club defines the style of play and the recruitment team buys players to fit that. It might mean that managers don't have the autonomy to bring in their own players and are hired more as coaches, but it should also mean more continuity - *if* the club stick to it.

- Or should we do what we've done so far and adopt the ethos of whichever manager we bring in? The managers may have more control over signing players, which some fans are calling out for, but that then risks situations like we might have with Arter, where a new manager doesn't fancy certain players for whatever reason.

The first option seems better for the long-term future of the club but we as fans would have to accept that it might mean less control for managers in terms of signings. And personally I don't think the January transfer window when we're battling against relegation is the time to start. Ideally Hughton can bring in a loan/short-term signing or two to keep us up then we can look at things again in the summer.

It does not have to give them less control they could still pick players they like that fits in with the vision of the club. But some player profiling is required for that, the types you want the age etc, wages too. Statistical data is massive too. The manager before he comes in either goes with the vision or does not take the job. 

It would definitely see a decrease in wasted money.

Yeah good points, and less wastage has to be a good thing.

[wassy04]

It's an interesting debate and it'd be good to know which way the club are looking to go. Should we:

- Commit to a long-term strategy where the club defines the style of play and the recruitment team buys players to fit that. It might mean that managers don't have the autonomy to bring in their own players and are hired more as coaches, but it should also mean more continuity - *if* the club stick to it.

- Or should we do what we've done so far and adopt the ethos of whichever manager we bring in? The managers may have more control over signing players, which some fans are calling out for, but that then risks situations like we might have with Arter, where a new manager doesn't fancy certain players for whatever reason.

The first option seems better for the long-term future of the club but we as fans would have to accept that it might mean less control for managers in terms of signings. And personally I don't think the January transfer window when we're battling against relegation is the time to start. Ideally Hughton can bring in a loan/short-term signing or two to keep us up then we can look at things again in the summer.

It does not have to give them less control they could still pick players they like that fits in with the vision of the club. But some player profiling is required for that, the types you want the age etc, wages too. Statistical data is massive too. The manager before he comes in either goes with the vision or does not take the job. 

It would definitely see a decrease in wasted money.

Yeah good points, and less wastage has to be a good thing.

Or an increase in wastage when we sign a bunch of young players for big fees that barely make an appearance like Clough etc.

Both options have risks, I feel like sometimes people just assume young players always increase in value. Look at the Carvalho situation.

The other issue with this is that to increase value and to help a player fulfill potential they would require game time and are likely to be up and down at best. Which means likely worse results in the short to medium term. It's still risky and by putting a big fee on a player they are expected to be an instant success eg Carvalho.

Not saying it isn't a good strategy but personally I'd want a blend of younger players and experienced players to support them.

[Reds73]

One of the big issues with signing players over 30 who are long in the tooth and normally quite cynical, is that if they get there nose put out of joint, they can often cause havoc in the dressing room.

That’s why Dawson has been such a good pro. Could you imagine Arter or Taylor in the dug out constantly encouraging and cajoling his fellow teammates.

Taylor was whining in the first few weeks, saying he’d been told he was coming into the club to play alongside Grabban.

It’s so important you do the due-diligence on attitude and character when signing more experienced players.

Ultimately these are the players who end up getting managers sacked.

Young players with their careers ahead of them tend to toe the line as they want to progress.

It’s very dangerous having a high % of players who will never be able to play higher. They realise that and just don’t have the hunger or desire.

[ThePromisedLand]

Yep