Is Vrentzos The New Mark Arthur, Should We Question Him?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

One final comment from me. Nothing or nobody is perfect. I am not naive, I know that some decisions that have been made have upset a few people. Now can we just leave it there and get behind the club, the players, the manager and the owners.

[JollyLolly]

You know what fellow forum members, we all have a valid point on the matter, however once we are constantly putting in good footballing performances on the pitch and challenging for promotion these issue will be left truly behind us all.

[Widdow]

So as per the thread title, are we saying that we shouldn’t question vrentzos then, he isn’t the new mark Arthur and he can do what he wants if we win a game if football, (which only done once this season, so not really doing well as one poster pointed out)

[ThePromisedLand]

We should be free to question any member of the club’s staff at any time.
They are not - of course - duty bound at all times to respond.
If Vrentzos elects to keep his own counsel that is his prerogative.
It would just be better for all concerned if the club’s hierarchy loosened up & communicated on a regular - if infrequent - basis to keep fans informed.
It seems that this ain’t going to happen though any time soon.
We just have to accept it - but it won’t stop conspiracy theorists from having a pop ( & I exclude Danny Taylor from that ).

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

So what picture does he paint?

Come on lets have it out in the open...

[Tricky]

So what picture does he paint?

Come on lets have it out in the open...

Let it drop mate

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I did drop it Tricky but others can't.
Haven't you noticed?
We all know that Adomah is bitter because he didn't get his move to Cardiff don't we?
That decision to recall him and keep him here instead of letting him go to one of our promotion rivals was applauded by everyone at the time.
Of course you wouldn't expect Adomah to be happy about it though would you?
If people can think a bit more beyond the obvious it's not difficult to work things out.
All these theories and accusations and still not a single scrap of evidence that something is seriously wrong out of the ordinary. These things happen at every football club. Tough decisions get made what some others will not like. Simple as that.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

Sniffer I am only discussing what is reported in the media. That is fair, its not that I wont let it drop.
I have supported Forest home and away my entire adult life. I have put up with 21 years of utter shite.
I am not going to simply “get behind the lads” because if the club is failing yet again despite a hugely expensive squad and an excellent manager then there is something wrong. It is a legitimate discussion.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Is it a legitimate discussion though SM?

We are only hearing from one side most of which is coming from journalists of The Athletic behind a PAID wall. There is a motive there you know. There is a clue in the word PAID.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Thank God The Athletic didn't exist during Cloughie's time at the club.

[ThePromisedLand]

Why?
He’d have welcomed such an open discussion.
Jeez

[ThePromisedLand]

I say again.
This is just a debate between a group of fans - all of which are pulling in the same direction.
No more. No less.
Let’s just embrace the opportunity to discuss in a open & non threatening environment.