Season Cards 2019-2020

[Paplane]

I'm not even going to try on Friday. It'll be a meltdown.

[Paplane]

I think some folk are getting a little to panicked, there's 20,000 available tickets for 20,364 people & I bet about 364 people will die, move away, have changed finances or give up for other reasons, meaning there will probably be enough tickets available & I'm fairly sure the club would breach their own cap if a handful got caught out, knowing natural wastage would take things under the cap again.

No. There's 21,652 season ticket holders including the half tickets sold in December. So unless those half-tickets were sold with a specific restriction that they wouldn't be able to be renewed, then 1,652 are going to miss out if the cap is set at 20k. That's 12% of all holders.

And the official site stated yesterday:

"....season cards available will be capped at 20,000, to ensure everyone who renews will have the best possible chance to claim a seat during the construction period. With this in mind, supporters looking to purchase during the renewal period are encouraged to do so at the earliest opportunity to avoid missing out."

[Paplane]

No. There's 21,652 season ticket holders including the half tickets sold in December.

Half tickets aren't season tickets, never have been, so as I said, 20,000 for 20,364 which, given natural wastage, is about the right number. No panic, no drama.

Please explain to me how they differ from a full ticket.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

I suppose it's like saying what is the difference between a pint of beer and half a pint of beer.

[Paplane]

No. There's 21,652 season ticket holders including the half tickets sold in December.

Half tickets aren't season tickets, never have been, so as I said, 20,000 for 20,364 which, given natural wastage, is about the right number. No panic, no drama.

Please explain to me how they differ from a full ticket.

Because they are not a full ticket?

Clues in the name

So a holder of a half ticket does not have the right to renew as a full ticket the season after?

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

No. There's 21,652 season ticket holders including the half tickets sold in December.

Half tickets aren't season tickets, never have been, so as I said, 20,000 for 20,364 which, given natural wastage, is about the right number. No panic, no drama.

Please explain to me how they differ from a full ticket.

Because they are not a full ticket?

Clues in the name

So a holder of a half ticket does not have the right to renew as a full ticket the season after?

Are you a Lawyer by any chance Pap  :)

[Paplane]

I suppose it's like saying what is the difference between a pint of beer and half a pint of beer.

Exactly

So a holder of a half ticket does not have the right to renew as a full ticket the season after?

Depends on the club, venue & circumstances, but season ticket holders (the 20,364 in this case) usually have priority.

It is what it is & always has been.

The club, for the reasons outlined, had to set a cap, it just so happens that a reasonable cap 20k, coincides with the number of season ticket holders, so they've gone with that number & informed people accordingly, advising season ticket holders to renew, in the renewal period, giving them plenty of notice, to avoid the possibility of missing out if they don't.

I fail to see the drama.

Nice Dodge.

I'm not 100% certain but my assumption is that anyone that currently holds a seat, whether they bought it as a full or as a half season ticket, has an equal right to renew that seat in this renewal period. And so on that basis if 21,652 people decide they want to renew, and the club steadfastly sticks to a 20k cap, some are going to be refused if they leave it late.

[Paplane]

Nice Dodge.

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I'm not 100% certain but my assumption is that anyone that currently holds a seat, whether they bought it as a full or as a half season ticket, has an equal right to renew that seat in this renewal period.

There's no rights, it's a courtesy, they can refuse everyone.

They can close the stadium & never let another person in ever.

What you have is a cap set at approximately the current number of season tickets, with reasonable notice to renew & advice of the consequences if renewal isn't made in that period.

Again I fail to see the drama

No drama here chap either. But my point remains. What you consider to be reasonable notice, others may not. Not everyone has 400 odd quid lying around and as a result there is a chance they may 'miss out' to others who do have. 

End of, I'm saying no more.

[BadDog]

You have until April 19th to renew don't panic.

[Redgirl]

We’re renewing today purely because it’s convenient, I would imagine the club will honour the odd few over the 20000 they aren’t going to let Joe Brown who has had a season ticket for 50 years miss out because he is the 20001st to renew.

[ThePromisedLand]

Done x 4

[Mozzer1]

Why the mass turnout today?? madness folk queuing from 6am...ill tell you why Forest's initial message was a poor one.