Stevie Cooper

[Jacksbadhobbits]

sacking Cooper this season would be the first step to returning to the wilderness we had for the 22 years until he came. It’s tough at the minute with a few injuries to forward players and to be honest we don’t have an abundance of quality in those positions when they are all available. All managers have difficult spells. I keep hearing our squad is so good we should be mid table but look at the squads around us. Do we really have a better squad than Everton or even Bournemouth. Our current squad is not too far off where you would expect it to be. We are currently two points off 11th. Leeds and Leicester had better squads than us last season and got relegated. Cooper has massively over achieved at Forest. The quality in the premier league is so high we aren’t going to rise up the division overnight like we did in the championship. Progress will inevitably be more gradual. Yesterday wasn’t great but I have been to most games since we got promoted and I would say we are better than this time last season, definitely more competitive away from home and progress is being made. Sack Cooper we risk chucking that away and going back to where we came from.

[wassy04]

sacking Cooper this season would be the first step to returning to the wilderness we had for the 22 years until he came. It’s tough at the minute with a few injuries to forward players and to be honest we don’t have an abundance of quality in those positions when they are all available. All managers have difficult spells. I keep hearing our squad is so good we should be mid table but look at the squads around us. Do we really have a better squad than Everton or even Bournemouth. Our current squad is not too far off where you would expect it to be. We are currently two points off 11th. Leeds and Leicester had better squads than us last season and got relegated. Cooper has massively over achieved at Forest. The quality in the premier league is so high we aren’t going to rise up the division overnight like we did in the championship. Progress will inevitably be more gradual. Yesterday wasn’t great but I have been to most games since we got promoted and I would say we are better than this time last season, definitely more competitive away from home and progress is being made. Sack Cooper we risk chucking that away and going back to where we came from.

Yes exactly, our squad is just a bunch of veterans and kids with potential. We've got a lack of attacking options and that's with everyone fit. We've played the last month depleted due to injuries to 4-5 players that would be starters if fit. We also sold our best attacker.

We've only lost to Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal and Man Utd this year. We're were in three of those games too! Did anyone expect anything else? We dropped points vs Luton and Burnley and gained 3 vs Chelsea, so we're broadly where you'd predicted us to be at this point. The fixtures get a little easier now and we have Taiwo back so lets try and be a bit positive.

[northeastred]

sacking Cooper this season would be the first step to returning to the wilderness we had for the 22 years until he came. It’s tough at the minute with a few injuries to forward players and to be honest we don’t have an abundance of quality in those positions when they are all available. All managers have difficult spells. I keep hearing our squad is so good we should be mid table but look at the squads around us. Do we really have a better squad than Everton or even Bournemouth. Our current squad is not too far off where you would expect it to be. We are currently two points off 11th. Leeds and Leicester had better squads than us last season and got relegated. Cooper has massively over achieved at Forest. The quality in the premier league is so high we aren’t going to rise up the division overnight like we did in the championship. Progress will inevitably be more gradual. Yesterday wasn’t great but I have been to most games since we got promoted and I would say we are better than this time last season, definitely more competitive away from home and progress is being made. Sack Cooper we risk chucking that away and going back to where we came from.

Bet villa and Brighton fans thought the same

[wassy04]

sacking Cooper this season would be the first step to returning to the wilderness we had for the 22 years until he came. It’s tough at the minute with a few injuries to forward players and to be honest we don’t have an abundance of quality in those positions when they are all available. All managers have difficult spells. I keep hearing our squad is so good we should be mid table but look at the squads around us. Do we really have a better squad than Everton or even Bournemouth. Our current squad is not too far off where you would expect it to be. We are currently two points off 11th. Leeds and Leicester had better squads than us last season and got relegated. Cooper has massively over achieved at Forest. The quality in the premier league is so high we aren’t going to rise up the division overnight like we did in the championship. Progress will inevitably be more gradual. Yesterday wasn’t great but I have been to most games since we got promoted and I would say we are better than this time last season, definitely more competitive away from home and progress is being made. Sack Cooper we risk chucking that away and going back to where we came from.

Bet villa and Brighton fans thought the same

Gerrard was awful, no-one at Villa wanted him to stay. Brighton is different as they were already good before De Zerbi came in.

I can make lists too though: Bournemouth, Leicester, Leeds, Southampton, Chelsea. I bet they feel good now. (Imagine Leicester fans are quite enjoying the championship season in reality) There are a lot more bad/average outcomes than good. Our record over the last 20 years surely proves that more than anything. We've literally had 1 successful manager since Frank Clark and so much failure. I can't possibly understand why you'd want to return to that level of uncertainty. It's ok though I guess when we get someone else in and they're no better than Cooper we can just sack them too and do the same thing again.

[Redgirl]

I cant believe anyone is advocating sacking the Manager who has turned this club around, 3 years ago we could only dream of being where we are now. Surely SC has earned a little more time than some are giving him. We lost to Liverpool, with no strikers starting what did everyone really expect? I do understand frustration, the diabolical Luton collapse didn't help but surely SC deserves a lot more respect? Give the man a fighting chance!

[DeesideRed]

I think we are really lacking in the final third, even with wood doing an able job standing in for Taiwo, starting vs Liverpool with no threat shows we are severely lacking. Origi was a desperate signing and the issue really needs addressing before the AFCON.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

I cant believe anyone is advocating sacking the Manager who has turned this club around, 3 years ago we could only dream of being where we are now. Surely SC has earned a little more time than some are giving him. We lost to Liverpool, with no strikers starting what did everyone really expect? I do understand frustration, the diabolical Luton collapse didn't help but surely SC deserves a lot more respect? Give the man a fighting chance!

Unfortunately the PL doesn’t allow time for sentiment and respect RG. If you want the ultimate example look to Leicester and Ranieri after he won the league title. I think we will face a very simple situation with Cooper and I can see it happening.

The difference for me is that Cooper is still learning and developing. He has improved year on year and in my opinion will continue to. It would really grate on me were we to sack him supposedly for someone better then see Cooper taking over as manager of another club who overtake us.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It's all assumptions, ifs, buts and maybes.

If Steve goes lets just see what happens because the truth is that we could be better and we could be worse.

That also applies if he stays.

My personal opinion is that there are better managers currently out there and available than Steve Cooper but that does not mean that I want him to be sacked.

[ozzyten10]

I think we have made some errors with the squad. We needed another winger / forward. The injuries are a bastard as CHO has real quality and ball carrying ability that we currently lack. Origi for me has been a waste - looks unfit and not really up for it from his minutes so far. Taiwo is made of biscuits. Elanga is a bit raw but has been decent. We have many players not contributing at the moment.
Cooper has his hands tied a bit at the moment. He needs another 10 games and more players available- he’s earned that.

[Jacksbadhobbits]

It's all assumptions, ifs, buts and maybes.

If Steve goes lets just see what happens because the truth is that we could be better and we could be worse.

That also applies if he stays.

My personal opinion is that there are better managers currently out there and available than Steve Cooper but that does not mean that I want him to be sacked.

I am not sure there are that many top top managers out there waiting to be in charge of us. To even replicate what Cooper has done for us they would need to be amongst the very best.

[wassy04]

It's all assumptions, ifs, buts and maybes.

If Steve goes lets just see what happens because the truth is that we could be better and we could be worse.

That also applies if he stays.

My personal opinion is that there are better managers currently out there and available than Steve Cooper but that does not mean that I want him to be sacked.

My personal opinion is the majority of those are not available and there are also a lot of managers that are worse than Steve Cooper available, more than are better and the odds of us finding one of them is much more likely.

Then you add in the fact that Steve is the best manager of my lifetime, is loved by the vast majority of the fanbase, the players and the media. I really don't understand why you'd even contemplate a change.

Something that certainly surprised me when thinking about Cooper, this is only his 5th season (not even his 5th full season as he joined us midway through one) in senior club management. There is so much room still for him to grow in the tactical and game management aspects of his management. However, it's so clear he has elite man management that is generally one of the main qualities that the elite managers possess.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It's all assumptions, ifs, buts and maybes.

If Steve goes lets just see what happens because the truth is that we could be better and we could be worse.

That also applies if he stays.

My personal opinion is that there are better managers currently out there and available than Steve Cooper but that does not mean that I want him to be sacked.

I am not sure there are that many top top managers out there waiting to be in charge of us. To even replicate what Cooper has done for us they would need to be amongst the very best.

He got us promoted to the Championship. Lets have some perspective here.

How Many different managers have done that?

Even Megson, Hughton, Holloway and Warnock have done it loads of times.

I like Steve but to suggest that we can't replace him with someone better is based on nothing but assumption and guess work.

Also you don't know EM very well if you think that he will take a backward step now we are in our second season in the PL and appoint anything but a top manager.