Should Sabri Be Sacked Or Not?

[ozzyten10]

For balance perhaps it is the players and mindset summed up by Sami Ameobi honest appraisal of yesterday’s match...
Speaking after the match, he said: “We didn’t start in the right way. We weren’t aggressive enough, strong enough and they punished us. I guess it was 45 minutes too late when we came out from the second half, it is not enough and we need to do that from the off.


“We need that confidence from the off, it is like we are waiting for something to happen. We need to go from the very beginning, everybody, and it almost took 45 minutes for us to get that kick we needed to get going but it is too late. We need to learn from this and learn quickly and start playing from the very first minute.

“When you look at the squad and the team, you can see the quality that is in there but that doesn’t matter if we are not confident and people don’t want to get on the ball to make something happen for this team.

“Hopefully we can start to learn form that, grow in confidence and use the quality we have to get three points.”

[Fumanchew]

Carvalho:
When asked how he saw Carvalho’s future, Lamouchi tells The Athletic: “This is for the club to think about but we know the situation. When we finish the game without certain kinds of players, we can think about this.” Asked if he had not been training with the first team, Lamouchi confirmed: “Yes, that is just an internal club decision.”

Are you suggesting that he wasn’t one of the people that had input in that decision?

[ozzyten10]

No... but strange that he used him v Barnsley only to then ostracise him. There are plenty of others who need the same on that performance!

[Uwantlee]

Sorry sniff... not all of us share your unwavering trust in all that the ownership do.

Now if you go back and read my post...

At no point did I say EM was at fault for our form.

I simply asked the question about where his priorities lie and how much does he know that's going on here.

My gripe was more aimed at those working in the club now. I simply cannot understand why sabri has been allowed to sign so many players... this tried and trusted method has worked so many times before. Why are the leadership allowing this. We finished 7th. At times last season we looked unbeatable. Do we need a whole new team???

I mean come on sniff... sabri is clearly to blame for the poor form, his selections and his training are now working. But if sabrinhas signed these players then someone has allowed him to and that is wrong. If wh had finished last season only just avoiding relegation then you could argue that the team isn't good enough and we need more players.

I get you think the sun shines out of the arse of those that run the club. without being offensive, you are starting to sound like someone else who had an unwavering support of the last ownership

No one is free of blame here for the current situation. Everyone involved with NFFC needs to step up. It's time that they started delivering.

[wassy04]

Sorry sniff... not all of us share your unwavering trust in all that the ownership do.

Now if you go back and read my post...

At no point did I say EM was at fault for our form.

I simply asked the question about where his priorities lie and how much does he know that's going on here.

My gripe was more aimed at those working in the club now. I simply cannot understand why sabri has been allowed to sign so many players... this tried and trusted method has worked so many times before. Why are the leadership allowing this. We finished 7th. At times last season we looked unbeatable. Do we need a whole new team???

I mean come on sniff... sabri is clearly to blame for the poor form, his selections and his training are now working. But if sabrinhas signed these players then someone has allowed him to and that is wrong. If wh had finished last season only just avoiding relegation then you could argue that the team isn't good enough and we need more players.

I get you think the sun shines out of the arse of those that run the club. without being offensive, you are starting to sound like someone else who had an unwavering support of the last ownership

No one is free of blame here for the current situation. Everyone involved with NFFC needs to step up. It's time that they started delivering.

So are you suggesting Sabri shouldn't have been allowed to sign any players? I'm confused.

Not sure it matters who the manager is, the majority have been proven championship players at a reasonable price. We've done way more business than most clubs and the squad looks noticeably stronger. Bring a winger in and thats a full house.

Sabri or whoever else is in charge of new signings has done a good job on paper at least. Particularly with the pandemic, imagine it'll take time to assimilate these new players with varying fitness levels. Although I think Taylor should be playing, he had the lockdown period off anyway so should be very fresh

[Uwantlee]

Sorry sniff... not all of us share your unwavering trust in all that the ownership do.

Now if you go back and read my post...

At no point did I say EM was at fault for our form.

I simply asked the question about where his priorities lie and how much does he know that's going on here.

My gripe was more aimed at those working in the club now. I simply cannot understand why sabri has been allowed to sign so many players... this tried and trusted method has worked so many times before. Why are the leadership allowing this. We finished 7th. At times last season we looked unbeatable. Do we need a whole new team???

I mean come on sniff... sabri is clearly to blame for the poor form, his selections and his training are now working. But if sabrinhas signed these players then someone has allowed him to and that is wrong. If wh had finished last season only just avoiding relegation then you could argue that the team isn't good enough and we need more players.

I get you think the sun shines out of the arse of those that run the club. without being offensive, you are starting to sound like someone else who had an unwavering support of the last ownership

No one is free of blame here for the current situation. Everyone involved with NFFC needs to step up. It's time that they started delivering.

So are you suggesting Sabri shouldn't have been allowed to sign any players? I'm confused.

Not sure it matters who the manager is, the majority have been proven championship players at a reasonable price. We've done way more business than most clubs and the squad looks noticeably stronger. Bring a winger in and thats a full house.

Sabri or whoever else is in charge of new signings has done a good job on paper at least. Particularly with the pandemic, imagine it'll take time to assimilate these new players with varying fitness levels. Although I think Taylor should be playing, he had the lockdown period off anyway so should be very fresh

Not at any point did I say no players. But for a team who finished 7th, and we all said it, 3 or 4 additions of quality would see us push forward... not 9 or 10 or 11 whatever it ends up being.

Also, yes we do have a strong squad. Still lost all 3 games this season without scoring. Still only won 3 in 18. Sabri is to blame for this. All inwas saying is that, I believe, the problem lies deeper than just sabri.

Not wanting EM out or anything like that as I think he has done wonders but.... those people working at the club.. I'm not sure about them. They need to be answerable too. The scouting of foreign players has not been great. Allowing the sheer number of signings IMO was not the correct way to address the squad that had our highest finish in a decade.

[ozzyten10]

The sheer size of incomings has probably affected team morale. We have loads of players with no chance of playing and probably causing a stink. Adomah for example is an experienced championship winger - good enough for the team that just beat us and ended up in the play offs last year hanging around causing a stink. He also probably has a point- he would have probably been more effective than da Costa, lolley and Ameobi in the last 3 games. Then we have right backs - jenkinson however poor we feel as a signing - overlooked for last week drafted in on the morning we signed another one - on a hiding to nothing so no wonder he looked bereft of any confidence.
Within the game freeman played left wing, right wing, number 10 and number 8 in the space of 90 minutes. On top of this we have the manager saying he wants a squad of 23 and 3 goal keepers meaning 10 players out on their ear, probably being paid to train for a year in our notorious bomb squad.
The whole thing is a mess - and I think too many players is causing this.

[wassy04]

Sorry sniff... not all of us share your unwavering trust in all that the ownership do.

Now if you go back and read my post...

At no point did I say EM was at fault for our form.

I simply asked the question about where his priorities lie and how much does he know that's going on here.

My gripe was more aimed at those working in the club now. I simply cannot understand why sabri has been allowed to sign so many players... this tried and trusted method has worked so many times before. Why are the leadership allowing this. We finished 7th. At times last season we looked unbeatable. Do we need a whole new team???

I mean come on sniff... sabri is clearly to blame for the poor form, his selections and his training are now working. But if sabrinhas signed these players then someone has allowed him to and that is wrong. If wh had finished last season only just avoiding relegation then you could argue that the team isn't good enough and we need more players.

I get you think the sun shines out of the arse of those that run the club. without being offensive, you are starting to sound like someone else who had an unwavering support of the last ownership

No one is free of blame here for the current situation. Everyone involved with NFFC needs to step up. It's time that they started delivering.

So are you suggesting Sabri shouldn't have been allowed to sign any players? I'm confused.

Not sure it matters who the manager is, the majority have been proven championship players at a reasonable price. We've done way more business than most clubs and the squad looks noticeably stronger. Bring a winger in and thats a full house.

Sabri or whoever else is in charge of new signings has done a good job on paper at least. Particularly with the pandemic, imagine it'll take time to assimilate these new players with varying fitness levels. Although I think Taylor should be playing, he had the lockdown period off anyway so should be very fresh

Not at any point did I say no players. But for a team who finished 7th, and we all said it, 3 or 4 additions of quality would see us push forward... not 9 or 10 or 11 whatever it ends up being.

Also, yes we do have a strong squad. Still lost all 3 games this season without scoring. Still only won 3 in 18. Sabri is to blame for this. All inwas saying is that, I believe, the problem lies deeper than just sabri.

Not wanting EM out or anything like that as I think he has done wonders but.... those people working at the club.. I'm not sure about them. They need to be answerable too. The scouting of foreign players has not been great. Allowing the sheer number of signings IMO was not the correct way to address the squad that had our highest finish in a decade.

You implied Sabri shouldn't have been allowed to sign players, that either implies you think Sabri should've already been sacked last season or we should sign no-one.

I just feel like the club can't win with people like you. Team not good enough, ok sign new players. Too many from abroad, ok sign proven championship players. Oh wait but no you've signed too many. 

We had to replace cash and Watson so thats an extra two. Most are saying figs/ribeiro/lolley need to be rotated but you think we shouldn't because we're not allowed to buy more than 3 or 4 players?

Which signings have you disagreed with?

[Derby My Arse]

I never thought I would live to see the day when an owner and those around him at the club were criticised for backing a manager after the end of last season and then supporting that manager with the players that he feels he needs to make us better this season. Beyond strange.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

But we didnt need 9 players!! We needed 3 or 4 who were quality as said above.

And with those 9 we STILL dont have.

1. A natural leader / captain to replace Watson

2. Any pace in the squad which is essential for a side that likes to play on the break.

So do we need yet more players? Is it Sabri’s fault for not getting the most out of what we have? Or is there a wider problem from the top around how the club plans and operates?

[ozzyten10]

New signings

Keeper - agree 3 first team keepers needed
Soh - on paper a really good coup. You don’t play for PSG if you are total crap. But is he championship ready?
Blackett - cover for LB and can play LCB- plenty of championship experience, good age, good pedigree.
Colback- no brainier
Bachirou- punt on cheap but experienced busy midfielder
Freeman- amazing signing in my eyes- consistently in the top goal involvement charts for championship for last 5 years. Good age and eager to play.
Taylor- experienced striker who has been round the block. Excellent record in last 2 seasons and produced on of the best centre forward performances I have seen at the city ground last year for Charlton that I had seen in years.
Guerrero - a support striker. Lauded for his work rate and space he creates for others. Experience of la Liga and European football. Strong runs the channels and an option for number 9 or even a different type of number 10.
Christie- played consistently for teams hunting for promotion in the championship. Athletic and played a decent amount of international football often out of position and even played midfield.

All 9 can be argued to be really good additions.

Why hasn’t it improved us then?

[Dog and Bear]

I never thought I would live to see the day when an owner and those around him at the club were criticised for backing a manager after the end of last season and then supporting that manager with the players that he feels he needs to make us better this season. Beyond strange.

How dare they back and support their manager!! Absolute disgrace!!