Season 2019/20 Can We Finally Go Up?
(06-02-2020, 05:16 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 05:09 PM)Paplane Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 04:58 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 12:42 PM)Paplane Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 11:29 AM)wassy04 Wrote: Without wanting to sound negative I do get his point. I think we've been a bit lucky this year. Not denying some excellent performances too eg brentford. 

Expected goals which is a vague chances to success ratio has us around 18th. 

All that said most teams that go up are lucky, just look at Sheff U and Norwich. We remind me of norwich, rode our luck in the early part winning a lot of games by 1 now we need to step it up and accelerate. Hopefully the greater options on the bench will help. I'm very hopeful of that painful few weeks in may when the playoffs are on

I don't think we have been lucky to be honest chap. What results do you think we've got that we weren't due?

We've been lucky in that Grabban and Watson have remained fit, but take key players out of other sides and they struggle too.

We keep it tight at the back and win games by the odd goal.  I accept that Grabban is scoring most of those odd goals but without him we probably wouldn't play the way we do. As he's remained fit, we've been able to play to plan A all season. 

Only Sheffield Wednesday have managed to beat us by a margin of more than 1 goal this season. That's excellence, not luck.

Barnsley (H), Wigan (H), Blackburn (H), Luton (H), Fulham (A), derby (H), Stoke (A).

Not saying we were lucky in all these wins but we wkn these games and at times we were heavily under siege and could've easily not won. 

I agree we've done a good job of being awkward opposition and I'd love to be proved wrong and we start winning more comfortably or even just continue to scrap out tight wins and go up that way. I just dont think we want to be over confident so that when we dont win there is so much anarchy and anger.

Then we're going to have to agree to disagree mate. I'd say there's a difference between getting ahead, digging in & getting a result, and being lucky. The game's about defending too remember.

Yeah fair enough I get that, it's an interesting debate really. Are you a good team regardless of you win or can you be lucky too? For me winning isn't everything in terms of defining how good you are.

Personally, I think you can be good and not win so the same goes for being bad and win. Not sure which I'd choose at this point in the season though!

Yeah but at some point you have to look at the results which say we've only lost to one team in the top ten this year (we were unlucky!!) and only lost by more than 1 goal once. I suppose every team will get a lucky win every now and then but if it keeps happening then it has to be happening by design, surely.
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RE: Season 2019/20 Can We Finally Go Up? - by ThePromisedLand - 18-05-2019, 09:08 AM
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RE: Season 2019/20 Can We Finally Go Up? - by Kranky - 27-05-2019, 04:34 PM
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