Nottingham Forest - Wigan

[Strawberry Avenger]

Saw an interview with robert pires over xmas. He said you have to be able to give it in English football or you wont succeed. Carvalho clearly cant. I wouldn't pay 1mill for the lad

Cheers Jock.  As Clough once said, 'Get in there!  That's what I pay you for.'  or 'You're forwards aren't getting hurt enough if they aren't scoring goals.'

That's the Championship.  There is no should.  It's 'earn the right.'  Yes.  When it's dark and winter...a muddy pitch...when someone has slapped you up or kicked you  or shoved you on the back of the head (remember the big lad giving Ben Os' a right shove on the back of the head last season...and Ben' took it when he could have reacted...kept his cool.)

As Basset once said, 'It's a man's game.'  (Forest had been roughed up vs Sheff' Wed' I think, funnily enough. ;)  One of his players had been moaning about being shunted off the ball...  Dave told him you have to be able to cope with that.  i.e. the physical side of the game.  Probably Bonalair or someone moaning.  It seems we're still having the debate about this all these years later in the Championship.  ie.  Gainst Wednesday Forest looked outfought and out-athleted and out thought.  They have some of the missing ingredients we're after.)

Car' has the talent.  But does he have the will to win? (If he had Yate's 'Will to win' he'd be the player we 'think' he is. He seems mentally shot.)

Yates.  Has the will to win.  And he isn't 'untalented.'  It's just not in that 'sexy' ACM position.

Still have to run.  Still have to win tackles.  Head a ball.  Still have to show a will to win even if you look like a 'headless chicken' at times.

Composure.  How many of Forest's 11 had that today?

SA.