29-12-2019, 06:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 29-12-2019, 09:45 PM by Joe Baker Legend.)
Forest v Wigan
2nd Half and post match
Not a happy bunch.....
Let's hope they have just missed their best chance annall...seemed easier to score that header.
What a suprise conceed a set piece again! Worst team in country for conceeding dead balls.
How the hell did Byrne not even hit the target?!?
Who'd have thought Massey would be first subbed off for doing absolutely nothing? Who could've predicted it?
But on comes not Garner, not Geldhardt but Roberts...
Is anyone surprised?
Fail to hit the target from a one on one. A minute later stand around like statues from a corner and allow them a free header.
What goes on the training ground I’ve no idea, but it certainly isn’t finishing or defending set pieces.
You surprised? The last time a cook sub made any impact in a positive sense was Geldhardt at Hull. And the lad has barely been seen since.
This lot won’t score as long as they’ve got a hole in their arse.
Dunkley will be on soon.
Joke again
Feck off Windass
WHY DID WE LET JOSH TAKE THE PEN?! HE'S MISSED EVERY PEN HE'S TAKEN?
Gelhardt has shown more quality in 2 mins than our entire squad have all season.
Gelhardt done more in 2 minutes than Massey has all season.
As soon as Windass stepped up I knew he wouldn't score it.
Same shit different match.
FFS. Please make it stop ....
Jesus fecking Christ, why the f**k is Windarse taking penalties. Do we ever heed f*****g lessons
Geldhartd caused more problems in 2 mins than the attacking midfield trio collectively have in the previous 10 games combined.
Who'd have guessed he'd be a better option than every other player Cook has used ahead of him for months?
Your a fecking disgrace Cook Joffy has just shown you up for what you are
I am fuming.
Gelhardt has absolutely destroyed Forest in his 15 minute cameo. Could have had 2 or 3 goals with his creativity. Why on earth is he never played?
What does Cook see in training? The same under performers are in the team week in, week out. But players with real quality get cameos or a single match. Then back on the bench.
So long as this man is in charge we will always be saying, if only, what if, why did he do that, what the hells he doing.....its groundhog day everytime we play. Great cameo from Geldhart but that will now consign him to either not in the squad or benched #cookout
What the hell do we do in training 13corners and no goal threat
Should have won at a canter. Camped in their half pretty much all match. The stats are ridiculous. Our attacking players are a disgrace. 69% possession and 13 corners away from home. 14 shots including a penalty and still can't score. Professional footballers who can't shoot, total disgrace.
Joe Garner as predicted scores a brilliant goal on Boxing Day then gets dropped. A natural predator in the box but only gets brought on with minutes to go. Young Geldhart our own little Rooney, bags of talent changes our approach. Both Garner and Geldhart are substitutes behind Gary Flamin Roberts FFS.
Rich vein of absolutely atrocious form continues.
Open your eyes Royle, failing that open your gob and communicate with the fans and supporters.
Like I said earlier, our front players could not score in a free brothel. How many more chances should they be given? Like others have said Joffey did more in 15 mins than the rest did all match. So why won’t Cook play him? Yet again I find myself let down and disgusted. And to make matters worse, all the other results went our way today.
Why did he bring the 73 year old Roberts on? Why did Garner lose his place? Why did Windass take the penalty? Why haven't we seen more of Gelhardt in recent games (who has always looked a threat whenever he's played)? The decisions this manager makes are utterly ridiculous. I keep hoping that things will change, but there is just no evidence of it. We've nothing to lose. From now on, he must give Gelhardt more game time. Cook won't be sacked - it would have happened by now. I can only assume that they can't afford to release him from his contract. I have nothing against him personally but I just don't think he's up to it.
Massey and Lowe start - really
Played Forest off the pitch with 9 men
Roberts first sub - really
Forest had 2 corners we had 13 they scored we played all ours short - really
Nathan Byrne do you have a left foot ?
Windass allowed to take another pen - really
Geldhardt did more in 15 mins than the front 3 put together.
Won the pen should have took it
incompetence reaches a new level of shittery
Honourable mentions to Naismithenbauer and Robinson both had good games for me.
It's so hard to take, we have completely dominated 7 of the last 8 matches and 10 out of the 13 games we haven't won, we were by far the better side. Yet 0 wins. We're so close to being a good side but just keep making the same errors. We can't score, yet all the players capable of scoring hardly get a chance. If the right players had started thr last 13 games with the way we've played I'm adamant we'd have won at least 7/8 of those 13. How many absoluter sitters can one team miss? Defence yet again for 85+ minutes doesn't give a sniff and that's been the case through all those 13 matches. Failure to convert chances and then sitting back in so many games eventually causes you to crack at the back, psychologically it's inevitable.
Our keepers through the last 13 matches have had almost nothing to do apart from pick the ball out of the net. Yet we haven't won once.
God I’m f*****g angry.
Why is the bellend in charge incapable of learning from mistakes?
Windarse has missed the last two penalties so why the hell is he still taking them? I can’t wait to hear the excuse for this.
Why do we concede so many goals from corners? What the goes on in training to address this issue because the same mistakes happen game after game.
We can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, so why the hell does Joffy not get a game? Instead we persist with utter shite week after week masquerading as a forward line when the young lad already proved his quality at Hull and showed more in 15 minutes today then the aforementioned shite has done all season.
Still no doubt the clown will be hailing that the good form has continued despite one away win in a calendar year and no win in 13 as we sit bottom.
Message to Mr. Cook...now I know you don't like awkward questions but try this one on for size...why keep playing Massey and Lowe week after week when Joffy did more in 5 minutes than them 2 fecking wasters have done in 10 games combined?
13 corners, none played directly into the box, they had two corners, both played directly into the box and scored from one! Not hard to see a flaw in the masterplan is there!!
Last few games I've felt frustrated but resigned to our fate but I'm fuming today.
Why is Windass delegated pen taker despite having a 0% conversation rate for us?! And what the hell was that penalty not hit hard, not in the corner absolute garbage hoping keeper jumps out of the way. Disgraceful effort from Josh but he shouldn't have even got the chance to miss it.
Why has Geldhardt not been playing ever game this season?
Why wait so long to get the subs on? Why not when we were on top before they scored?
Why do we conceed set pieces continually and it never gets better?
Why do so many of our set pieces not end up in the box when attacking set pieces is literally the only thing we are good at?
Why start with that team? No Pilks, no Garner or Geldhardt but Lowe under achieving all year and Massey out of his depth and out of position, Williams out of position in attacking mid and Windass out of position up front in a role we know he can't play.
Forest were woeful and we were all over them but we threw it away again. No lack of effort from the lads on the pitch and as frustrated as I am at missing chances I know the lads aren't missing them delibereltly but the stuff we decisions above we make game after game are what infuriate me the most - we don't maximise our chances of winning by doing the most sensible thing or learning from past mistakes.
15% win ratio this season and falling every week, record equaling 13 without a win, something like 17 wins in over 70 games, how bad does this run have to get? We are now 7 adrift of 5th bottom and no chance we'll make up that gap. So we are bottom of a mini league of the bottom 4. Need fresh ideas as we can't score and can't keep the ball out - surely at some point there must be a consequence for failure.
Reality is, no win in 13, 1 win away for well over a year. A change was needed months ago, and today demonstrated that no matter how well we play we still lose. It is a results business and Cook is not getting them. He is a very fortunate person to even still be at the club. Anywhere else he would have been sacked months ago at the latest.
As for the match, nothing needs to be said, Massey, Lowe, Roberts, and Windass got taught a football lesson by a 17-year-old player who when he came on did more than all of them combined all game. Our attacking players are nowhere near championship quality. Their goal was again from a corner. Meanwhile the corners we took lead to absolutely nothing.
The defence was good, the midfield did their jobs, but as soon as the ball went into the final third, nothing at all, I mean all our good plays actually came from Byrne and Robinson. Massey, Lowe was horrendous, may as well played with nine men.
As for Windass, as soon as he stepped up, it was missed, I have no idea why he takes the penalties. 4 misses in a row now?
I will say the players only have themselves to blame today. I expect Gelhardt to start every game from now on as we need results and he is our only good attacking player. But Cook has had a generous amount of time now, it's not going to improve, he needs to be ridden before the new year. Royles show some spine and do the right thing by the club. It is when you play well and lose which is the big worry.
Naismith, Gelhardt and Robinson had good games today.
And we still lost - shockin just shocking
Sack him and put his assistant in caretaker charge.
Joffy has to start every game now. Nothing l
To lose and the evidence I the pitch is there for all to see. Hull away. His pass vs Swansea which Moore should have done better with. Next game front 3 of windass garner and Joffy. Worth a try
Sack him and put crusty the pie in charge
For the first time in my Tics supporting life, I honestly don’t even care anymore. Not bothered in the slightest - same old, same old.
This will continue to happen - week in, week out - until we are relegated/a managerial change is made. End of story.
Yep, I’ve become ambivalent to our plight but today has really wound me up. Fuming. Sick and tired of that clowns inability learn from mistakes and the fact he’s still allowed to continue making them. To compound it his statistics are utterly appalling yet he’s allowed to carry on without consequence. Club needs a clear out from top to bottom.
Doesn’t even have the good grace to mention Gelhardt’s performance. I’m sorry Paul, you’ve done a lot of good for this club. But by not walking away a few months ago you’re ruining any remaining goodwill.
It feels like you’re staying on for a big payday. Not making the best decision for the club.
Wasn't there today, but I'm sick of seeing us take a short corner just to spend the next 5 minutes trying to work it in to a crossing position
We need a goalscorer because the muppets he is selecting clearly aren’t. Failing that play Gelhardt. I am at a loss to understand why he won’t. What have we got to lose? We are running out of time and I fear yet another relegation is looming. What annoys me more than anything is that we rarely get battered but still manage to get beaten time and again. Something has to change and soon.
All the possession and again only 4 shots on target yet a proven goal scorer sat on the bench
CraP
2nd Half and post match
Not a happy bunch.....
Let's hope they have just missed their best chance annall...seemed easier to score that header.
What a suprise conceed a set piece again! Worst team in country for conceeding dead balls.
How the hell did Byrne not even hit the target?!?
Who'd have thought Massey would be first subbed off for doing absolutely nothing? Who could've predicted it?
But on comes not Garner, not Geldhardt but Roberts...
Is anyone surprised?
Fail to hit the target from a one on one. A minute later stand around like statues from a corner and allow them a free header.
What goes on the training ground I’ve no idea, but it certainly isn’t finishing or defending set pieces.
You surprised? The last time a cook sub made any impact in a positive sense was Geldhardt at Hull. And the lad has barely been seen since.
This lot won’t score as long as they’ve got a hole in their arse.
Dunkley will be on soon.
Joke again
Feck off Windass
WHY DID WE LET JOSH TAKE THE PEN?! HE'S MISSED EVERY PEN HE'S TAKEN?
Gelhardt has shown more quality in 2 mins than our entire squad have all season.
Gelhardt done more in 2 minutes than Massey has all season.
As soon as Windass stepped up I knew he wouldn't score it.
Same shit different match.
FFS. Please make it stop ....
Jesus fecking Christ, why the f**k is Windarse taking penalties. Do we ever heed f*****g lessons
Geldhartd caused more problems in 2 mins than the attacking midfield trio collectively have in the previous 10 games combined.
Who'd have guessed he'd be a better option than every other player Cook has used ahead of him for months?
Your a fecking disgrace Cook Joffy has just shown you up for what you are
I am fuming.
Gelhardt has absolutely destroyed Forest in his 15 minute cameo. Could have had 2 or 3 goals with his creativity. Why on earth is he never played?
What does Cook see in training? The same under performers are in the team week in, week out. But players with real quality get cameos or a single match. Then back on the bench.
So long as this man is in charge we will always be saying, if only, what if, why did he do that, what the hells he doing.....its groundhog day everytime we play. Great cameo from Geldhart but that will now consign him to either not in the squad or benched #cookout
What the hell do we do in training 13corners and no goal threat
Should have won at a canter. Camped in their half pretty much all match. The stats are ridiculous. Our attacking players are a disgrace. 69% possession and 13 corners away from home. 14 shots including a penalty and still can't score. Professional footballers who can't shoot, total disgrace.
Joe Garner as predicted scores a brilliant goal on Boxing Day then gets dropped. A natural predator in the box but only gets brought on with minutes to go. Young Geldhart our own little Rooney, bags of talent changes our approach. Both Garner and Geldhart are substitutes behind Gary Flamin Roberts FFS.
Rich vein of absolutely atrocious form continues.
Open your eyes Royle, failing that open your gob and communicate with the fans and supporters.
Like I said earlier, our front players could not score in a free brothel. How many more chances should they be given? Like others have said Joffey did more in 15 mins than the rest did all match. So why won’t Cook play him? Yet again I find myself let down and disgusted. And to make matters worse, all the other results went our way today.
Why did he bring the 73 year old Roberts on? Why did Garner lose his place? Why did Windass take the penalty? Why haven't we seen more of Gelhardt in recent games (who has always looked a threat whenever he's played)? The decisions this manager makes are utterly ridiculous. I keep hoping that things will change, but there is just no evidence of it. We've nothing to lose. From now on, he must give Gelhardt more game time. Cook won't be sacked - it would have happened by now. I can only assume that they can't afford to release him from his contract. I have nothing against him personally but I just don't think he's up to it.
Massey and Lowe start - really
Played Forest off the pitch with 9 men
Roberts first sub - really
Forest had 2 corners we had 13 they scored we played all ours short - really
Nathan Byrne do you have a left foot ?
Windass allowed to take another pen - really
Geldhardt did more in 15 mins than the front 3 put together.
Won the pen should have took it
incompetence reaches a new level of shittery
Honourable mentions to Naismithenbauer and Robinson both had good games for me.
It's so hard to take, we have completely dominated 7 of the last 8 matches and 10 out of the 13 games we haven't won, we were by far the better side. Yet 0 wins. We're so close to being a good side but just keep making the same errors. We can't score, yet all the players capable of scoring hardly get a chance. If the right players had started thr last 13 games with the way we've played I'm adamant we'd have won at least 7/8 of those 13. How many absoluter sitters can one team miss? Defence yet again for 85+ minutes doesn't give a sniff and that's been the case through all those 13 matches. Failure to convert chances and then sitting back in so many games eventually causes you to crack at the back, psychologically it's inevitable.
Our keepers through the last 13 matches have had almost nothing to do apart from pick the ball out of the net. Yet we haven't won once.
God I’m f*****g angry.
Why is the bellend in charge incapable of learning from mistakes?
Windarse has missed the last two penalties so why the hell is he still taking them? I can’t wait to hear the excuse for this.
Why do we concede so many goals from corners? What the goes on in training to address this issue because the same mistakes happen game after game.
We can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, so why the hell does Joffy not get a game? Instead we persist with utter shite week after week masquerading as a forward line when the young lad already proved his quality at Hull and showed more in 15 minutes today then the aforementioned shite has done all season.
Still no doubt the clown will be hailing that the good form has continued despite one away win in a calendar year and no win in 13 as we sit bottom.
Message to Mr. Cook...now I know you don't like awkward questions but try this one on for size...why keep playing Massey and Lowe week after week when Joffy did more in 5 minutes than them 2 fecking wasters have done in 10 games combined?
13 corners, none played directly into the box, they had two corners, both played directly into the box and scored from one! Not hard to see a flaw in the masterplan is there!!
Last few games I've felt frustrated but resigned to our fate but I'm fuming today.
Why is Windass delegated pen taker despite having a 0% conversation rate for us?! And what the hell was that penalty not hit hard, not in the corner absolute garbage hoping keeper jumps out of the way. Disgraceful effort from Josh but he shouldn't have even got the chance to miss it.
Why has Geldhardt not been playing ever game this season?
Why wait so long to get the subs on? Why not when we were on top before they scored?
Why do we conceed set pieces continually and it never gets better?
Why do so many of our set pieces not end up in the box when attacking set pieces is literally the only thing we are good at?
Why start with that team? No Pilks, no Garner or Geldhardt but Lowe under achieving all year and Massey out of his depth and out of position, Williams out of position in attacking mid and Windass out of position up front in a role we know he can't play.
Forest were woeful and we were all over them but we threw it away again. No lack of effort from the lads on the pitch and as frustrated as I am at missing chances I know the lads aren't missing them delibereltly but the stuff we decisions above we make game after game are what infuriate me the most - we don't maximise our chances of winning by doing the most sensible thing or learning from past mistakes.
15% win ratio this season and falling every week, record equaling 13 without a win, something like 17 wins in over 70 games, how bad does this run have to get? We are now 7 adrift of 5th bottom and no chance we'll make up that gap. So we are bottom of a mini league of the bottom 4. Need fresh ideas as we can't score and can't keep the ball out - surely at some point there must be a consequence for failure.
Reality is, no win in 13, 1 win away for well over a year. A change was needed months ago, and today demonstrated that no matter how well we play we still lose. It is a results business and Cook is not getting them. He is a very fortunate person to even still be at the club. Anywhere else he would have been sacked months ago at the latest.
As for the match, nothing needs to be said, Massey, Lowe, Roberts, and Windass got taught a football lesson by a 17-year-old player who when he came on did more than all of them combined all game. Our attacking players are nowhere near championship quality. Their goal was again from a corner. Meanwhile the corners we took lead to absolutely nothing.
The defence was good, the midfield did their jobs, but as soon as the ball went into the final third, nothing at all, I mean all our good plays actually came from Byrne and Robinson. Massey, Lowe was horrendous, may as well played with nine men.
As for Windass, as soon as he stepped up, it was missed, I have no idea why he takes the penalties. 4 misses in a row now?
I will say the players only have themselves to blame today. I expect Gelhardt to start every game from now on as we need results and he is our only good attacking player. But Cook has had a generous amount of time now, it's not going to improve, he needs to be ridden before the new year. Royles show some spine and do the right thing by the club. It is when you play well and lose which is the big worry.
Naismith, Gelhardt and Robinson had good games today.
And we still lost - shockin just shocking
Sack him and put his assistant in caretaker charge.
Joffy has to start every game now. Nothing l
To lose and the evidence I the pitch is there for all to see. Hull away. His pass vs Swansea which Moore should have done better with. Next game front 3 of windass garner and Joffy. Worth a try
Sack him and put crusty the pie in charge
For the first time in my Tics supporting life, I honestly don’t even care anymore. Not bothered in the slightest - same old, same old.
This will continue to happen - week in, week out - until we are relegated/a managerial change is made. End of story.
Yep, I’ve become ambivalent to our plight but today has really wound me up. Fuming. Sick and tired of that clowns inability learn from mistakes and the fact he’s still allowed to continue making them. To compound it his statistics are utterly appalling yet he’s allowed to carry on without consequence. Club needs a clear out from top to bottom.
Doesn’t even have the good grace to mention Gelhardt’s performance. I’m sorry Paul, you’ve done a lot of good for this club. But by not walking away a few months ago you’re ruining any remaining goodwill.
It feels like you’re staying on for a big payday. Not making the best decision for the club.
Wasn't there today, but I'm sick of seeing us take a short corner just to spend the next 5 minutes trying to work it in to a crossing position
We need a goalscorer because the muppets he is selecting clearly aren’t. Failing that play Gelhardt. I am at a loss to understand why he won’t. What have we got to lose? We are running out of time and I fear yet another relegation is looming. What annoys me more than anything is that we rarely get battered but still manage to get beaten time and again. Something has to change and soon.
All the possession and again only 4 shots on target yet a proven goal scorer sat on the bench
CraP