21-01-2019, 05:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 22-03-2019, 10:41 AM by Duncan Mckenzie.)
(22-11-2018, 11:47 AM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:(21-11-2018, 06:44 PM)Paplane Wrote: Martin O'Neil and Roy Keane have been sacked by Ireland today.
Would you swap AK for the pair?
Me, no, but who knows, 4 or 5 bad results before now and Christmas for us and we might eventually get our man!
It means there's some good managerial candidates around at the moment with Jokanovic and Bruce both out of work too.
No thanks.
Martin O'Neil and Keane are best remembered for their contributions under Brian Clough.
Martin the manager, has, like Aitor, been backed with big money under many of his tenure. He'd want that here and does that make him any different to the criticisms of Aitor as a 'check book' manager. (Which maybe true. But most managers who have got teams out of this division have spent money... We now have a manager who can spend wisely. The team is better the squad is deeper. If he doesn't deliver, he'll lose his job like the rest did.)
Martin's football at Leicester was 'direct.' The politest thing you could say. He got them promoted via the play offs by the skin of their teeth and stayed in the Premier for a good few years. Again, I remember the football being 'direct.' He went to Scotland to manager Celtic. I recall one Rangers fan I knew saying that his teams played ugly football that would kick Rangers off the park. Again, 'direct.' That sounds like a downgrade from the Aitor game Forest are currently playing.
Keane. Great player. He's his 'own' man. That aside. As a manager? He got Sunderland promoted. That was it. What else has he done?
Neither have had great footballing ethos or teams that were particularly good footballing sides or technical. Keane blew a lot of money at Ipswich. On mediocre players. Did he get them promoted?
They've been sacked from the national side. Maybe their were 'unlucky.' Or they had what they had to work with.
Either way. Martin had his chance to come at Forest when he was at the 'height' of his managerial powers. Keane? Maybe he had his chance. Nigel Clough too.
They 'all' turned Forest down.
Aitor is getting the job done. This is his first full year in charge of Forest. 7th and flirting with play offs and potentially a top 2 if they put consistency together...is significant progress.
The football is beginning to deliver with time. The side are becoming more consistent. The leaks at the back are beginning to dry up. Note. Fox isn't in the side. Yes, I know his performances were lauded but, Dawson at the back AND Robinson have made a massive difference. But credit Aitor for that. It takes time to do that.
Forest bought a lot of pieces over the eleven months. Takes time for them to settle. And settling they are.
January. LB, DCM enforcer with legs and progressive passing, ACM with experience and match winning capability, Winger with power and pace and experience, STRIKER with power and pace.
SA.
SA, you're a bl**dy disgrace.
I meant to say, 'Yes please...'
LOL. *Somebody hand me a shot gun...
SA.