Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager

[Strawberry Avenger]

He had his team last year. What did he do with it? They were good damn awful. They were loans so it does not count? We looked less of a team at the end of the season than we did at the start of it.

Name his team of permanent signings.  Go on.  

What team of 11 players did Hughton have 'of his' last year that he signed on for the poison chalice?  

He didn't bring in any players last Summer.  He brought in a loan.

Had to wait until the January window to band aid last Summer's dart board recruitment.  He brought in?  Murray.  Garner.  Krov'.  Mere patchwork for the recruitment problems Forest made for themselves previously when Hughton wasn't here.

None of whom were permanent (and Garner and Krov' going back has proven damaging to the team because we're weaker without them and it's shown in the start to the season.)

Still waiting on that striker.

Hardly sets up any manager for free flowing football.

SA.

Just give up Strawbs me owd. The consensus is that we're crap and it's all CH's fault.

Not the case actually. Though every single post where Hughton gets criticised is jumped on by a few folk and the same lines repeated about no permanent signings and it's getting a bit boring. I think the vast majority of poster agree that recruitment hasn't been up to standard but a similar majority also don't rate Hughton and wouldn't mind if he was moved on. 

There is probably a thought that by defending the manager, people are taking the mature, classy, sensible opinion but in all honesty the people that are defending Hughton are actually slating an entire squad of players! Most of them are not crap players, a lot of them would perform far better with better management, I believe. I just don't feel Chris has a fire in his belly, maybe his previous success has made it less exciting to try and only win promotion from the Champ, who knows. 

I would far rather we kept with a manager for the long term and built on a system, but it has to be the right manager...is that Chris, I'm not so sure.

No manager goes in and signs 11 players. Most go in and add 1 or 2 each window.

As stated above he has had players that he chose that cost us a fortune in loan fees and wages and we were still crap.

I think we all agree that, with the players we have here now  we should be doing better but the tactics he plays just don't suit work in this team. It is his job to find something that does work.

Glen Murray, knockeart, krov, horvath, garner, zinc, tutu are all his signings with the first 3 on that list costing us a lot in fees and wages. 7 players there 4 last season... that's more than 1/3 of a teamast season of his signings and he couldn't get them playing.

At this point I'd rather the club sign players to suit the playing style our CEO stated we would be using when he first got the job.

ER.  That's not true at Forest.  At all.

Aitor went out and brought in 10(!) players in January following 'that' Preston game.

Sabri brought in 14 players.

Even Warburton brought in a handful of his own players and stopped there as he said (allegedly) he didn't need more at the time.

Billy signed a good few players in this 1st season also...

SoD had an entire squad built in a about a week.

Garner and Krov' weren't signed until January and were only loans.  They went back.  None of those two were available for the 1st 4 games and it showed.  We were a worse team without them.  (Recruitment problem.)

All of the players you mention are loans. :)  Loan players go back.  They can be recalled.  There's no building there afforded for Hughton.  At all.  So, how many permanent signings has he been allowed to make?  He only brought in one player from the back end of last Summer.  A few loans (which he gets credit for as they kept Forest up.  Including the maligned Knocker.)

Most of the teams getting results have added '1 or 2 or few per window...'  Yeah.  Ofc.  Because they don't tear squads up and sign 14 players in one window.  Then tear it up again and begin from scratch without fullbacks or a young striker.  

It's clear what Hughton needs.  But the CEO can't see his way to providing it yet.  The only fit outfield player to start the season was Zinc?  We've had to wait a further 4 league games for Garner.

SA.