Nottingham Forest - Bournemouth
(14-08-2021, 07:15 PM)stirred Wrote:
(14-08-2021, 06:50 PM)zicorice Wrote:
(14-08-2021, 06:40 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Look, I share the frustrations and I know Uwantlee has said the same since day 1 about CH so fair enough. I just dont think losing today was down to CH. Also think ripping it up and sacking the manager now ends the season before it starts and would jeopardise any potential incomings before the end of the month.

Whilst I agree with most of this. It was frustrating today and I doubt any of the options CH had would have done much more -  aside from Carvalho, who carried his confidence with him from Wednesday.

But you are wasting your time with certain folk who post gleefully on here after a defeat, but are very quiet when we win. 

With 2 wins in 16, something will no doubt change one way or another soon. Personally I am hoping its our results and not the manager that changes, but that's clearly not the case for all of our "supporters". You know who you are.

Here it is again, trying to discredit people who criticize Hughton. I don't see glee on here.

Calling people "supporters"? How about you respond to what they are criticizing if you disagree, not make snidey attacks on the people, as if you're better than them. 

Bournemouth had 6 first teamers out, but we didn't take it to them. Their best player was sent off with half an hour left, yet we played with 2 defensive midfielders and left the guy most able to unlock a defence on the bench until minute 83. Alternatively if he wanted to persist with crosses from wide, why not have Taylor and Grabban up top. Against 10 men is a time you can.

Our style of play is not to use the middle much anyway, but give it wide and put hopeful crosses in. Similar stuff last season, Hughton seems to do that. There has been no porgression on how we play, it's like he just wants to do that but have better players to do it. Its from yesteryear.

Personally I agree we have had some poor managers over the years, each time setting us back with their signings. CH is not one of them. We had 2 Hughton signings today I think. One was playing out of position out of necessity and the other was PZ. Arguably our 2 best players on the day.

No-one is immune from criticism and I already stated that CH did not change things quickly enough against 10 men. Though Carvalho aside, not sure it would have mattered.

However, I am sick to death of us hiring and firing managers. Probably get hammered by some but I thought we could evolve under Warburton, but he was sacked...again.

So we hired CH, a manager with the best calibre in the division we are in, of any realistic target out there. If this doesn't work out then where next? 

Proven Championship manager? 
Foreign coach?
Player Manager?
Forest  Legend?
Attack minded coach?
Youth minded manager?

We've tried all of the above (more than once in some cases) and we are still here.

Emotions can run high after games, especially for those with all the answers with hindsight. 

Over the 2 league games so far, I think there have been some promising signs, but also some worrying ones. Without Worrall our defence needs protecting, especially with the full back situation as it is. We are missing 3 key players (albeit Bong is only key as he is our only LB) including our talisman in Worrall.

 Bournemouth, barely a year out of prem may well have been missing 6 but they looked good against WBA and looked fairly good today. Brooks is class, their LB looked very good and I have never heard of him.

If CH isn't the answer (and I'm not sure he is either) then who? Or maybe it needs to be a different question?

There are some demanding he be sacked after 1,2 and now 3 games. Really? Feels a bit dejavu from where I stand. How has that gone for us in last 20 odd years?
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RE: Nottingham Forest - Bournemouth - by wassy04 - 13-08-2021, 09:56 AM
RE: Nottingham Forest - Bournemouth - by Tricky - 13-08-2021, 10:12 AM
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