Dyche In/Out

[Sausage Roll]

It seems to me it's more the manner of the performances which is the problem rather than the results. Like MR said our form in recent matches isn't terrible but the Braga and Leeds matches were mostly abject.

Though even having said that we created a lot of chances against Leeds.

[Marinakis Red]

It seems to me it's more the manner of the performances which is the problem rather than the results. Like MR said our form in recent matches isn't terrible but the Braga and Leeds matches were mostly abject.

Though even having said that we created a lot of chances against Leeds.

People are certainly voting with their feet in regards to performances and the amount of seats unputxhased in the last 2 home games. 

It is mental. 

I hope we get a win tonight.

[wassy04]

It seems to me it's more the manner of the performances which is the problem rather than the results. Like MR said our form in recent matches isn't terrible but the Braga and Leeds matches were mostly abject.

Though even having said that we created a lot of chances against Leeds.

Yeah that part is lost vs Leeds, whilst the collapse was horrifying to watch, we had been the better side before that and created a couple of massive chances that we didn't take. Likely ends up a different result if we are the team to score first. It feels like under Dyche (and Nuno) its so much about scoring first. We take an early chance and we can play our defensive counter attacking style effectively eg Brentford.

Feels like there's a lot riding on tonight...

[DeesideRed]

I've Just seen that form table and we'd go joint 3rd level with Bournemouth. Seems everyone is inconsistent

[wassy04]

I've Just seen that form table and we'd go joint 3rd level with Bournemouth. Seems everyone is inconsistent

That form table won't take into account strength of schedule though. (Although Spurs did recently take 1 point from Burnley and West Ham)

West Ham may have won 3 games but they were against Burnley, Sunderland and Spurs (although two away which makes it more impressive)

After today our last 6 games will have included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect any team to be near the top of the form table when you play those teams surely?

[Jean_claude_killy]

I've Just seen that form table and we'd go joint 3rd level with Bournemouth. Seems everyone is inconsistent

That form table won't take into account strength of schedule though. (Although Spurs did recently take 1 point from Burnley and West Ham)

West Ham may have won 3 games but they were against Burnley, Sunderland and Spurs (although two away which makes it more impressive)

After today our last 6 games will have included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect any team to be near the top of the form table when you play those teams surely?

The form table over the last 15 games is far more representative, and we sit 11th in that table.

[wassy04]

I've Just seen that form table and we'd go joint 3rd level with Bournemouth. Seems everyone is inconsistent

That form table won't take into account strength of schedule though. (Although Spurs did recently take 1 point from Burnley and West Ham)

West Ham may have won 3 games but they were against Burnley, Sunderland and Spurs (although two away which makes it more impressive)

After today our last 6 games will have included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect any team to be near the top of the form table when you play those teams surely?

The form table over the last 15 games is far more representative, and we sit 11th in that table.

Yeah that sounds more reasonable, is that since Dyche took over by chance?

We really did waste some games early in the season. Losing home to Sunderland, draw with Burnley, losing to West Ham at home.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

It's the PL table that matters. I couldn't give a f**k about the form table.

The PL table says we are one place above the drop zone.

[JollyLollyAussie]

Fully support your comments Sniffer, only our standing in the PL table matters, sod all the other crap! What matters is ahead of us, forget the past.

[Paplane]

I've Just seen that form table and we'd go joint 3rd level with Bournemouth. Seems everyone is inconsistent

That form table won't take into account strength of schedule though. (Although Spurs did recently take 1 point from Burnley and West Ham)

West Ham may have won 3 games but they were against Burnley, Sunderland and Spurs (although two away which makes it more impressive)

After today our last 6 games will have included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect any team to be near the top of the form table when you play those teams surely?

The form table over the last 15 games is far more representative, and we sit 11th in that table.

Yeah that sounds more reasonable, is that since Dyche took over by chance?

We really did waste some games early in the season. Losing home to Sunderland, draw with Burnley, losing to West Ham at home.

Yep, and after tonight we will have expended our 'easiest game of the season' token (Wolves Home) and we're still right in the mire. All of our competitors have their home game versus Wolves to come. Not good.

Anyone remember a couple of seasons ago when we played both terrible Burnley and even worse Sheff Utd right at the very end of the season, thus denying us the ability to get points on the board earlier? I've always thought that was to our disadvantage when all other sides had already banked their wins against these two really poor teams.

[wassy04]

I've Just seen that form table and we'd go joint 3rd level with Bournemouth. Seems everyone is inconsistent

That form table won't take into account strength of schedule though. (Although Spurs did recently take 1 point from Burnley and West Ham)

West Ham may have won 3 games but they were against Burnley, Sunderland and Spurs (although two away which makes it more impressive)

After today our last 6 games will have included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect any team to be near the top of the form table when you play those teams surely?

The form table over the last 15 games is far more representative, and we sit 11th in that table.

Yeah that sounds more reasonable, is that since Dyche took over by chance?

We really did waste some games early in the season. Losing home to Sunderland, draw with Burnley, losing to West Ham at home.

Yep, and after tonight we will have expended our 'easiest game of the season' token (Wolves Home) and we're still right in the mire. All of our competitors have their home game versus Wolves to come. Not good.

Anyone remember a couple of seasons ago when we played both terrible Burnley and even worse Sheff Utd right at the very end of the season, thus denying us the ability to get points on the board earlier? I've always thought that was to our disadvantage when all other sides had already banked their wins against these two really poor teams.

Yeah I remember that, agree in made our record look worse than it was in reality. Massive advantage to have easier games early, bigger teams tend to be in multiple competitions later on so will rotate and be more tired etc. Even midtable teams will tend to ease off when Europe/relegation is safer. 

Man Utd at the end is a worry as they have no other comps.

[Paplane]

That form table won't take into account strength of schedule though. (Although Spurs did recently take 1 point from Burnley and West Ham)

West Ham may have won 3 games but they were against Burnley, Sunderland and Spurs (although two away which makes it more impressive)

After today our last 6 games will have included West Ham, Leeds, Palace and Wolves. You would expect any team to be near the top of the form table when you play those teams surely?

The form table over the last 15 games is far more representative, and we sit 11th in that table.

Yeah that sounds more reasonable, is that since Dyche took over by chance?

We really did waste some games early in the season. Losing home to Sunderland, draw with Burnley, losing to West Ham at home.

Yep, and after tonight we will have expended our 'easiest game of the season' token (Wolves Home) and we're still right in the mire. All of our competitors have their home game versus Wolves to come. Not good.

Anyone remember a couple of seasons ago when we played both terrible Burnley and even worse Sheff Utd right at the very end of the season, thus denying us the ability to get points on the board earlier? I've always thought that was to our disadvantage when all other sides had already banked their wins against these two really poor teams.

Yeah I remember that, agree in made our record look worse than it was in reality. Massive advantage to have easier games early, bigger teams tend to be in multiple competitions later on so will rotate and be more tired etc. Even midtable teams will tend to ease off when Europe/relegation is safer. 

Man Utd at the end is a worry as they have no other comps.

So, assuming we win tonight (big if I know, lol), we go level on points with Spurs. To finish above them, we have to have one point more than them to account for the goal difference, and they will have their home game v Wolves joker card up their sleeve. So we have to better all their other results by 4 points basically. Same for Leeds (depending on a much closer goal difference). At this moment in time I honestly don't see how we're going to do it.