Budget - Speculate To Accumulate?

[Sausage Roll]

There's a lot of talk on the transfer thread about us being 'skint' and while it's certainly true we've not made any permanent signings yet, we have made bids for players and had at least one accepted so it seems there's a small amount of money to spend if nothing else.

There was a poll on Twitter a couple of weeks ago which had some interesting results so I thought I'd post a similar one on here. The crux of it was: Would you rather we only sign loans and frees (with *maybe* a small permanent deal) if it meant keeping the players we really want to keep (Worrall, Johnson, Mighten etc.)? Or would you rather we sell one or more of them to fund more purchases and round out the squad?

For the purposes of this poll it's a binary choice. Obviously in an ideal world we'd rather sell Arter, Jenkinson and Bong, but that's not looking likely at the moment.

So - keep what we have and make only modest signings? Or speculate to accumulate?

[wassy04]

There's a lot of talk on the transfer thread about us being 'skint' and while it's certainly true we've not made any permanent signings yet, we have made bids for players and had at least one accepted so it seems there's a small amount of money to spend if nothing else.

There was a poll on Twitter a couple of weeks ago which had some interesting results so I thought I'd post a similar one on here. The crux of it was: Would you rather we only sign loans and frees (with *maybe* a small permanent deal) if it meant keeping the players we really want to keep (Worrall, Johnson, Mighten etc.)? Or would you rather we sell one or more of them to fund more purchases and round out the squad?

For the purposes of this poll it's a binary choice. Obviously in an ideal world we'd rather sell Arter, Jenkinson and Bong, but that's not looking likely at the moment.

So - keep what we have and make only modest signings? Or speculate to accumulate?

I put don't sell but only because the options were limited. 100% sell if we're getting good offers, however the fact that we haven't sold already suggests we're not. Not sure I see the point of selling low just to buy with someone else of a similar level.

[Sausage Roll]

There's a lot of talk on the transfer thread about us being 'skint' and while it's certainly true we've not made any permanent signings yet, we have made bids for players and had at least one accepted so it seems there's a small amount of money to spend if nothing else.

There was a poll on Twitter a couple of weeks ago which had some interesting results so I thought I'd post a similar one on here. The crux of it was: Would you rather we only sign loans and frees (with *maybe* a small permanent deal) if it meant keeping the players we really want to keep (Worrall, Johnson, Mighten etc.)? Or would you rather we sell one or more of them to fund more purchases and round out the squad?

For the purposes of this poll it's a binary choice. Obviously in an ideal world we'd rather sell Arter, Jenkinson and Bong, but that's not looking likely at the moment.

So - keep what we have and make only modest signings? Or speculate to accumulate?

I put don't sell but only because the options were limited. 100% sell if we're getting good offers, however the fact that we haven't sold already suggests we're not. Not sure I see the point of selling low just to buy with someone else of a similar level.

Oh yes. I'm not suggesting a desperate fire sale. I meant sell if the offers were at least reasonable. £4m for Johnson I wouldn't class as reasonable.

[Marinakis Red]

I'm in the sell a worrall or a Johnson at the right price camp to bring the players we want in if we have not got the capital available within FFP rules. Got no issue with that at all. We just need transparency in regards to that. Randall had that opportunity and spoke in riddles sitting on a very prickly fence.

The only issue is right now is that we have not got the level of interest in anyone to be able to do that and have seemingly fell flat on our faces. 4m for Johmson is a definite no no, that will not allow us to do our business. 10m considering the position we find ourselves in is a different conversation.

[Sausage Roll]

I'm in the sell a worrall or a Johnson at the right price camp to bring the players we want in if we have not got the capital available within FFP rules. Got no issue with that at all. We just need transparency in regards to that. Randall had that opportunity and spoke in riddles sitting on a very prickly fence.

The only issue is right now is that we have not got the level of interest in anyone to be able to do that and have seemingly fell flat on our faces. 4m for Johmson is a definite no no, that will not allow us to do our business. 10m considering the position we find ourselves in is a different conversation.

Can't argue with any of that.

There's lots of talk on the other thread of us having drawn up a list of targets with salaries outlined and whatever. I'd love to know if that list was drawn up assuming we'd have made a big sale.

If it was, then that kind of explains why it's been such a struggle bringing players in so far.

[Sniffer Dog (Admin)]

Can we have a 'don't sell player's but get deals over the line that were arranged and set up by Gary Brazil and his team in the summer' option please?

That is my vote.

[Salvatore Matrecano]

All the talk leaked to the press earlier in the summer was around a big sale, suspect that hasn’t happened as expected and we are on to plans C and D.

Yes sell unfortunately it’s probably the only option. Utterly depressing that this time last year we had £15M to spend and we mostly wasted it yet again.

[Marinakis Red]

I'm in the sell a worrall or a Johnson at the right price camp to bring the players we want in if we have not got the capital available within FFP rules. Got no issue with that at all. We just need transparency in regards to that. Randall had that opportunity and spoke in riddles sitting on a very prickly fence.

The only issue is right now is that we have not got the level of interest in anyone to be able to do that and have seemingly fell flat on our faces. 4m for Johmson is a definite no no, that will not allow us to do our business. 10m considering the position we find ourselves in is a different conversation.

Can't argue with any of that.

There's lots of talk on the other thread of us having drawn up a list of targets with salaries outlined and whatever. I'd love to know if that list was drawn up assuming we'd have made a big sale.

If it was, then that kind of explains why it's been such a struggle bringing players in so far.

My personal view is that it was mate and when the Worrall to Brentford deal collapsed it really has hindered us. I think we fully expected to sell Worrall this summer to fund the deals. If he went today it would be interesting how quickly we would get our business done. 

But if we are close to the bone FFP wise I've got no issue at all by selling someone if we can to fund this summers recruitment because the calibre of player we are trying to get here will improve the team and all of an age where there value will only ever increase if they do well meaning yet more profit down the line. Like a brentford model just with a youth academy. That can only ever improve us as a team.

[Sausage Roll]

Can we have a 'don't sell player's but get deals over the line that were arranged and set up by Gary Brazil and his team in the summer' option please?

That is my vote.

No.  :D

Like I've said though - were those deals arranged assuming that we'd have, say, £10m to spend having sold Joe Worrall? If they were then I can understand why we're now struggling to complete them.

If not, then that's a different story.

[Reds73]

Can we have a 'don't sell player's but get deals over the line that were arranged and set up by Gary Brazil and his team in the summer' option please?

That is my vote.

I don’t think it’s that simple Sniff.

I think there were assumptions made that Joe would leave this summer.

I think we are onto a plan b.

We needed the 10/12m of Joe money for Plan A

[Paplane]

Id say we're on plan c now, which is to patch the side up with loans.

[Strawberry Avenger]

Can we have a 'don't sell player's but get deals over the line that were arranged and set up by Gary Brazil and his team in the summer' option please?

That is my vote.

:)

SA.