(25-11-2023, 07:13 PM)zicorice Wrote: Unusually going to reflect without watching back.

Positives
- MGWs best game by a mile, just wish he could shoot and head it at goal.
- Yates back, was decent.
- Elanga again dangerous.
- Wood did OK.
- CHO back.
- Origi looked OK.
- Murillo tackle at end and a couple of great passes.

Negatives
- Our defence is a shambles. No leadership and no real experience.
- Couldn't score against 10 men.
- Missed header and great save could have got an undeserved point.
- All the bullsh1t this week about Brightons injuries and being there for taking. Then 3 of the injured players start the game, yet some on here are still shocked that Brighton are a top side. (It carried on in this thread, apparently because our young Brazilian u23 international Danilo - among others- kept giving ball away its down to coaching).
- Another lead with points dropped.
- We need a result rapidly to get some confidence.
- For an hour it appeared we had no fight in midfield (MGW aside) which is not acceptable. The last 20 mins or so there was a visible lift, but some of the half hearted tackles, getting beat in air at back post, pulling out of headers is not OK. Pretty football requires you to earn the right to play.

I may feel differently when I watch it back  but special mention to Anthony Taylor, who was a joke. Talking to Brighton fans afterwards, they said same. He was embarrassing himself. I actually began to pity him he was so bad. Didn't affect us losing, but was terrible for both teams. Pedro is a tool, but Murillo booted him in stomach after ball looked like it was gone, very silly.
The big guy who ran into MGW after and then threw himself on the floor should have been booked too.
Modern football has so many dislikeable aspects to it and that is certainly one of them.

(25-11-2023, 06:15 PM)Paplane Wrote: And we're shipping goals again now. 2 v Luton, 3 v Liverpool, 3 v West Ham and now 3 today. Does that coincide with Murillo being in the side?

(25-11-2023, 07:57 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Not going to make excuses, we were 2nd best.
Totally lost midfield, Danilo woeful , Dominguez lost the plot for some reason.
Poor defensively, Ody should have saved the first, poor marking 2nd.

Whether you want to blame the manager is up to you. The team are playing for him though.

It's just suicide passing though again isn't it. Danilo could have easily gone down the line for a mgw chase, probably resulting in a throw in 50 yards up the pitch. But instead he plays it across the middle of the park.

We missed sangare and they were there for the taking today. Great to see MGW back causing problems.

(25-11-2023, 08:03 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:57 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Not going to make excuses, we were 2nd best.
Totally lost midfield, Danilo woeful , Dominguez lost the plot for some reason.
Poor defensively, Ody should have saved the first, poor marking 2nd.

Whether you want to blame the manager is up to you. The team are playing for him though.

It's just suicide passing though again isn't it. Danilo could have easily gone down the line for a mgw chase, probably resulting in a throw in 50 yards up the pitch. But instead he plays it across the middle of the park.

We missed sangare and they were there for the taking today. Great to see MGW back causing problems.

There for the taking? They absolutely played us off the park and then had the fortitude to block off the game and get thewun. They were miles better than us and put in an excellent display. They were not there for the taking, they're quality.

(25-11-2023, 08:03 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:57 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Not going to make excuses, we were 2nd best.
Totally lost midfield, Danilo woeful , Dominguez lost the plot for some reason.
Poor defensively, Ody should have saved the first, poor marking 2nd.

Whether you want to blame the manager is up to you. The team are playing for him though.

It's just suicide passing though again isn't it. Danilo could have easily gone down the line for a mgw chase, probably resulting in a throw in 50 yards up the pitch. But instead he plays it across the middle of the park.

We missed sangare and they were there for the taking today. Great to see MGW back causing problems. 

There for the taking? They absolutely played us off the park and then had the fortitude to block off the game and get thewun. They were miles better than us and put in an excellent display. They were not there for the taking, they're quality.

(25-11-2023, 08:10 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 08:03 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:57 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Not going to make excuses, we were 2nd best.
Totally lost midfield, Danilo woeful , Dominguez lost the plot for some reason.
Poor defensively, Ody should have saved the first, poor marking 2nd.

Whether you want to blame the manager is up to you. The team are playing for him though.

It's just suicide passing though again isn't it. Danilo could have easily gone down the line for a mgw chase, probably resulting in a throw in 50 yards up the pitch. But instead he plays it across the middle of the park.

We missed sangare and they were there for the taking today. Great to see MGW back causing problems.

There for the taking? They absolutely played us off the park and then had the fortitude to block off the game and get thewun. They were miles better than us and put in an excellent display. They were not there for the taking, they're quality.

Glad some can see that Pap. I agree but we play world class teams every week. We need to find a way to get results against them. But you say yourself you get frustrated by low block so not sure what the answer is.

Sadly we only took 5 points out of 9 at home against the 3 promoted sides, supposedly easier games, so we have made life difficult for ourselves. I am not going to shy away from saying need to better.

(25-11-2023, 08:19 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 08:10 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 08:03 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:57 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Not going to make excuses, we were 2nd best.
Totally lost midfield, Danilo woeful , Dominguez lost the plot for some reason.
Poor defensively, Ody should have saved the first, poor marking 2nd.

Whether you want to blame the manager is up to you. The team are playing for him though.

It's just suicide passing though again isn't it. Danilo could have easily gone down the line for a mgw chase, probably resulting in a throw in 50 yards up the pitch. But instead he plays it across the middle of the park.

We missed sangare and they were there for the taking today. Great to see MGW back causing problems.

There for the taking? They absolutely played us off the park and then had the fortitude to block off the game and get thewun. They were miles better than us and put in an excellent display. They were not there for the taking, they're quality.

Glad some can see that Pap. I agree but we play world class teams every week. We need to find a way to get results against them. But you say yourself you get frustrated by low block so not sure what the answer is.

Sadly we only took 5 points out of 9 at home against the 3 promoted sides, supposedly easier games, so we have made life difficult for ourselves. I am not going to shy away from saying need to better.

Yep. Its no shame losing to Brighton, they really are excellent amd to be honest they probably felt they were due a win against us after we took 4 points off them last season. If we were them today, had scored 3 goals at a tricky away tie, lost a man and put in a mammoth 20 mins at the end to hold on we'd be buzzing tonight. Bit we're no way near their level at the moment so probably couldnt have expected to win the game.

And I agree, those poor home results, and the loss of leads too this season might prove to be really costly for Cooper. Another loss or poor display and a draw even and it suddenly gets very tough for Cooper, unfortunately.

(25-11-2023, 08:28 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 08:19 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 08:10 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 08:03 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(25-11-2023, 07:57 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote: It's just suicide passing though again isn't it. Danilo could have easily gone down the line for a mgw chase, probably resulting in a throw in 50 yards up the pitch. But instead he plays it across the middle of the park.

We missed sangare and they were there for the taking today. Great to see MGW back causing problems.

There for the taking? They absolutely played us off the park and then had the fortitude to block off the game and get thewun. They were miles better than us and put in an excellent display. They were not there for the taking, they're quality.

Glad some can see that Pap. I agree but we play world class teams every week. We need to find a way to get results against them. But you say yourself you get frustrated by low block so not sure what the answer is.

Sadly we only took 5 points out of 9 at home against the 3 promoted sides, supposedly easier games, so we have made life difficult for ourselves. I am not going to shy away from saying need to better.

Yep. Its no shame losing to Brighton, they really are excellent amd to be honest they probably felt they were due a win against us after we took 4 points off them last season. If we were them today, had scored 3 goals at a tricky away tie, lost a man and put in a mammoth 20 mins at the end to hold on we'd be buzzing tonight. Bit we're no way near their level at the moment so probably couldnt have expected to win the game.

And I agree, those poor home results, and the loss of leads too this season might prove to be really costly for Cooper. Another loss or poor display and a draw even and it suddenly gets very tough for Cooper, unfortunately.

We aren't at their level over the course of a season but that's not how it works. We weren't Liverpools or Arsenal's level last season. But you can manage games in a way to get results.

(25-11-2023, 08:30 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Brighton hadn't won for six games in the PL and had been playing poorly.

(25-11-2023, 06:15 PM)Paplane Wrote: And we're shipping goals again now. 2 v Luton, 3 v Liverpool, 3 v West Ham and now 3 today. Does that coincide with Murillo being in the side?