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RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - ThePromisedLand - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:57 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Can't believe that some think that EM would move a player from Forest to Olympiakos without making a tidy profit. Olympiakos don't need the money they have Champions League football every season, it's us who needs the money stuck in The Championship.

Suspect the issue is that all such transactions between the 2 clubs seem to be carried out behind a cloak of secrecy.

I’m sure there’s no issue Sniff - but do understand how this ( especially during these times when we are struggling so badly ) can lead to suspicion.

Human nature.


RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:25 PM)Widdow Wrote:
(01-02-2021, 03:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(01-02-2021, 02:37 PM)Uwantlee Wrote: To be honest, as a fan, I couldn’t give a crap about EMs past and allegations made about him whilst in charge of another team. If they were made against him whilst at NFFC then I would want to know about it and read the reports whether they positive or negative. I just don’t care about what’s happened in greece.... unless it’s offloading another unwanted player on to us.

What I do want to read about, hear about and be told about is what is happening at NFFC... again positive or negative. What do we get from the club??? Nothing... so if news reporters are all we have to rely on for any information I will read it... make my own mind up on the story and form my own opinions.

My opinions are not always agreed with but that’s what makes for healthy discussion.

The point is EM and NR give us nothing. No news. No updates. No clue on to how the club is changing, adapting or learning from mistakes gone.

I have had enough of EM and the current lot. They have had 3.5 years and IMO are showing nothing of improvement on the pitch... yes ok there have been changes off the pitch but these don’t affect me. They may benefit the club long term but in the here and now we are in very real danger of relegation. On the pitch we are arguably as bad now as we were in fawaz last season. I wish he had sold us to the Americans. Christ they can’t even get a stand built... we have had a year without fans, an ideal time to build but nope... if it happens at all it will be when the fans are back impacting on the finances of the club with less people there.


I have had enough of CH too... his interviews are passionless. His tactics are dull and predictable to the point where we make average sides look like world beaters. I can only hope the rumours of a replacement are true. Yes stability is important... but a lot of fans (not all and not most) now can’t see anything other than relegation by sticking with CH.

Yeah agreed on CH, I've always said the most important thing to judge a manager on is his interviews. Is Ian Holloway available?

You know we're in a global recession/pandemic right? You might want to slightly realign what is achieveable and affordable right now.

Yeah, Holloway, no wouldn't want him, but come to think of it, he has also had two Promotions from Championship to Premier League, and I think guiding a team like Blackpool to EPL is far bigger achievement than say getting Newcastle promoted, and he did play decent football.

Hughton got Brighton promoted and kept them there.

Brighton were homeless not that long ago.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

And Hughton getting Newcastle promoted shows he can handle a big club.

Better than Bruce perhaps.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:57 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Can't believe that some think that EM would move a player from Forest to Olympiakos without making a tidy profit. Olympiakos don't need the money they have Champions League football every season, it's us who needs the money stuck in The Championship.

The recent move of the striker here and out again is more about making money under the guise of squad improvement.

In that sense Vrentzos wheeling and dealing is a good thing as long as it doesn't get in the way of the manager's 24 players of choice.

We brought that other keeper here and flipped him for a tidy profit.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:50 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 03:45 PM)Alf Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 02:34 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Back digging up the past again.

Soudani has already been bombed out at Olympiakos and Silva I think has started 2 games. We made good money on both of them.

Did we? The only fee I've seen officially reported is "undisclosed"

Which usually means threpance hapny

Nope. We made good money on both of them.

Agreed.  It's good business with the caveat that it doesn't interfere with eg Hughton's main squad building.

Just like shirt sponsors it is the trafficking of players for eg a couple of million over two or three of these can add to Forests bottom line.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:19 PM)Widdow Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 03:10 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Danny Preston was recalled by Forest from Grimsby.  29 appearances.

1st consideration with Ribiero sidelined?

SA.

We sent a more experienced left back out on loan.!

True.  But what about his attitude..?

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

And don't we want young players in our side...?

If Ribiero flips out again or Bong does his knee ligament on that hard bit of ground at the City Ground then we may need cover.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

It's good to have a sister club to help with exchange of players to help over.

Not only that. You can look at Oly now with its stadium and facilities to see where Forest could be with promotion.

I wonder what the total per season or over the last three years has been on the Oly help..? Anybody got the figures?

If we got £2-3 million for Soudani then it's over £5 million at least. Didn't we get £1.5 million for that Greek keeper? It all adds up.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Alf - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:50 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 03:45 PM)Alf Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 02:34 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Back digging up the past again.

Soudani has already been bombed out at Olympiakos and Silva I think has started 2 games. We made good money on both of them.

Did we? The only fee I've seen officially reported is "undisclosed"

Which usually means threpance hapny

Nope. We made good money on both of them.

Got a link to where it shows that please Sniff?





Nick The Greek
Sniffer Dog
Alf
Sniffer Dog
Back digging up the past again.

Soudani has already been bombed out at Olympiakos and Silva I think has started 2 games. We made good money on both of them.

Did we? The only fee I've seen officially reported is "undisclosed"

Which usually means threpance hapny

Nope. We made good money on both of them.

That is right. Olympiacos paid 3.5m for Soudani only.


Where does it say that? I can't find any official report of any such fee.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Alf - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 05:04 PM)Nick The Greek Wrote: I know it but no details please.

Well then how am I supposed to believe it?

Sorry, but I've never seen anything officially state we got 3.5m for Soudani, other than Twitter rumours & suchlike from folk who claimed we were signing Mbaye Diagne this window

I mean, it makes no sense. We signed him for 3m Euros according to the NEP, so £2.65m

So why would a season later, after being out injured for most of it, his value INCREASE to 3.5m?

Did Darikwa go for 3m to Wigan after we paid 2m for him? No, he went for nothing. No players value increases by being out the team injured.

Someone's telling big fat porkie pies here IMO


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - wassy04 - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 05:17 PM)Alf Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 05:04 PM)Nick The Greek Wrote: I know it but no details please.

Well then how am I supposed to believe it?

Sorry, but I've never seen anything officially state we got 3.5m for Soudani, other than Twitter rumours & suchlike from folk who claimed we were signing Mbaye Diagne this window

I mean, it makes no sense. We signed him for 3m Euros according to the NEP, so £2.65m

So why would a season later, after being out injured for most of it, his value INCREASE to 3.5m?

Did Darikwa go for 3m to Wigan after we paid 2m for him? No, he went for nothing. No players value increases by being out the team injured.

Someone's telling big fat porkie pies here IMO

You don't have to sell at exactly market rate, teams pay over the odds for players all the time. Particularly if the buyer also has a vested interest in the sale.

Anyway, Soudani was a great player, gutted we sold him (in case there are any FFP police reading this)  :D


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Reds73 - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:10 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Danny Preston was recalled by Forest from Grimsby.  29 appearances.

1st consideration with Ribiero sidelined?

SA.

Not a chance.

Questionable if he is football league standard, never mind Championship level.

He will prob have a career at L2 level at best.