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RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 02-02-2021

Back digging up the past again.

Soudani has already been bombed out at Olympiakos and Silva I think has started 2 games. We made good money on both of them.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Username - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 01:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 01:01 PM)Widdow Wrote: I will say they do like to recruit a player (loan or perm) but its "a scattergun and throw enough mud they hope something will stick approach"

Can anyone seriously argue its been quantity over quality??

As i have said numerous times, we have received more in transfer fees than we have spent, its not even close after selling Cash!!

That's a pretty standard strategy allowing the club to run a wage budget that can compete near the top. It's the only viable strategy to challenge at the top without parachute payments. Otherwise your ceiling is Barnsley.

Most statistics will point to wages being the closest correlation to actual results so being able to compete in this is crucial.

Yet we're 21st.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - wassy04 - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 02:34 PM)Username Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 12:46 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 12:40 PM)Widdow Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 12:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 11:45 AM)Widdow Wrote: You make my point, what is the long term strategy in that?

Could have used this window to look at players for next season as well, perhaps from League one, get them involved and know the direction going (and could be good for either the championship or if we go down), means less recruitment in the summer. As it is, there is going to be another mass turnover of players.



I am also not sure they will be enough to save us from Relegation.

Next two games are absolutely massive

The long term strategy is not adding more players on long contracts while attempting to protect the team in the short term and allowing for a mini clear out in the summer. I thought this was what everyone wanted?!

Also not sure I've mentioned it but WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC, no-one has any money.

NO one has money, shame we dont and have owners willing to invest, as in a pandemic, good bargains to be had!

They are investing, to the tune of 35m operating losses minus whatever we make in transfer sales. Plus whatever extra losses we took on from no crowds, which based on our last accounts looks to be around 10m plus any TV rebates or anything like that. 

Are you referring to the £34.4m?

That's not cash, it takes into account depreciation etc.

There was an increase of salary commitments of 8.6m on the prior year and other expenses of 3.7m.

That's simply mismanagement no matter how you dress it up.

I never mentioned cash, you're right though it's not operating cash but whichever way you dress it up the 35m loss has to be funded in some way. 

For the record its predominantly wages and transfer fee amortisation (which in most cases will actually already have been paid) so they've already contributed in that case. 

You are right though, an increase of 8m on wages but a decrease of 10 places doesn't make great reading! Also, should be noted these were the accounts for the year before last so likely to have seen a further increase. I think we're all painfully aware that we are underachieving this season and should really be somewhere near midtable. 

I think there are some mitigating factors which do tend to get overlooked ie the loss of the majority of our best players from last season and the fact that statistically (at least in the first half of the season) we missed a lot of chances which could be argued as unlucky.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 02-02-2021

Danny Preston was recalled by Forest from Grimsby. 29 appearances.

1st consideration with Ribiero sidelined?

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Widdow - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:10 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Danny Preston was recalled by Forest from Grimsby.  29 appearances.

1st consideration with Ribiero sidelined?

SA.

We sent a more experienced left back out on loan.!


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Jsmed - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:10 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: Danny Preston was recalled by Forest from Grimsby.  29 appearances.

1st consideration with Ribiero sidelined?

SA.

Don’t think he was recalled, pretty sure Grimsby cut short the loan.


RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Widdow - 02-02-2021

(01-02-2021, 03:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(01-02-2021, 02:37 PM)Uwantlee Wrote: To be honest, as a fan, I couldn’t give a crap about EMs past and allegations made about him whilst in charge of another team. If they were made against him whilst at NFFC then I would want to know about it and read the reports whether they positive or negative. I just don’t care about what’s happened in greece.... unless it’s offloading another unwanted player on to us.

What I do want to read about, hear about and be told about is what is happening at NFFC... again positive or negative. What do we get from the club??? Nothing... so if news reporters are all we have to rely on for any information I will read it... make my own mind up on the story and form my own opinions.

My opinions are not always agreed with but that’s what makes for healthy discussion.

The point is EM and NR give us nothing. No news. No updates. No clue on to how the club is changing, adapting or learning from mistakes gone.

I have had enough of EM and the current lot. They have had 3.5 years and IMO are showing nothing of improvement on the pitch... yes ok there have been changes off the pitch but these don’t affect me. They may benefit the club long term but in the here and now we are in very real danger of relegation. On the pitch we are arguably as bad now as we were in fawaz last season. I wish he had sold us to the Americans. Christ they can’t even get a stand built... we have had a year without fans, an ideal time to build but nope... if it happens at all it will be when the fans are back impacting on the finances of the club with less people there.


I have had enough of CH too... his interviews are passionless. His tactics are dull and predictable to the point where we make average sides look like world beaters. I can only hope the rumours of a replacement are true. Yes stability is important... but a lot of fans (not all and not most) now can’t see anything other than relegation by sticking with CH.

Yeah agreed on CH, I've always said the most important thing to judge a manager on is his interviews. Is Ian Holloway available?

You know we're in a global recession/pandemic right? You might want to slightly realign what is achieveable and affordable right now.

Yeah, Holloway, no wouldn't want him, but come to think of it, he has also had two Promotions from Championship to Premier League, and I think guiding a team like Blackpool to EPL is far bigger achievement than say getting Newcastle promoted, and he did play decent football.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Mad Squad - 02-02-2021

It's not connected with our first team Danny Preston is not ready and he is not going to play.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Alf - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 02:34 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Back digging up the past again.

Soudani has already been bombed out at Olympiakos and Silva I think has started 2 games. We made good money on both of them.

Did we? The only fee I've seen officially reported is "undisclosed"

Which usually means threpance hapny


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:45 PM)Alf Wrote:
(02-02-2021, 02:34 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Back digging up the past again.

Soudani has already been bombed out at Olympiakos and Silva I think has started 2 games. We made good money on both of them.

Did we? The only fee I've seen officially reported is "undisclosed"

Which usually means threpance hapny

Nope. We made good money on both of them.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 02-02-2021

Can't believe that some think that EM would move a player from Forest to Olympiakos without making a tidy profit. Olympiakos don't need the money they have Champions League football every season, it's us who needs the money stuck in The Championship.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - wassy04 - 02-02-2021

(02-02-2021, 03:57 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Can't believe that some think that EM would move a player from Forest to Olympiakos without making a tidy profit. Olympiakos don't need the money they have Champions League football every season, it's us who needs the money stuck in The Championship.

They don't have any form of FFP restrictions in Greece then? It certainly makes rational sense for him to do this, given it's just moving money around his accounts.