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RE: Ange - wassy04 - 09-10-2025
(09-10-2025, 03:20 PM)JWJW Wrote:(09-10-2025, 01:38 PM)Paplane Wrote:(09-10-2025, 01:12 PM)DeesideRed Wrote:(09-10-2025, 11:10 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote:(09-10-2025, 10:47 AM)DeesideRed Wrote: Exactly, i dont think most of us are sitting wait to go 'I told you so!'. Its more that its hard to see how this appointment works out, particularly if he does indeed ignore set-pieces in a season where they're becoming key.
My issue is that, beyond the odd spell like in the first half against Betis, we haven't seen much evidence of improvement. And worse than that the defence has now regressed to as bad as it was when Nuno first took over.
At the moment it's hard to know where the next win will come from. At least under Nuno we had a clear identity. The football might not have been exhilarating but it was (for most of last season anyway) effective. Under Ange right now it's neither. Such a diametric change in playing style means the appointment should've been done at the end of last season - not partway into this one.
Or... Taken into account Nuno's position became untenable, you recruit a coach of similar ilk, or at the very least not diametrically opposite
That's a major part of this whole business. Ange is doing what Ange does but it was obvious to most fans that such a massive change in approach was going to be a step too far, mid season, with no time to work on things. As much as we're criticising Ange, that's as much EM's problem as it is Ange.
Its Nuno's fault as well.
He threw the West Ham game and gifted them a win and made it such that there was no choice but to sack him.
If you want to apportion blame......its on Nuno's head.
How did Nuno throw the West Ham game? I've seen this said a few times, it's not like he played the academy.
Ange played the same team in the next game too, apart from Aina being out.
RE: Ange - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 09-10-2025
(09-10-2025, 03:34 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:(09-10-2025, 03:31 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: The club wanted to change the playing style and worked on it during the summer before Ange came.
The owner
And others including senior players if we want to have it out in the open.
Do you think the players enjoyed those tactics at the end of last season?
They didn't.
RE: Ange - Salvatore Matrecano - 09-10-2025
There needed to be an evolution in tactics, that’s clear from results at the end of last season. No need to try to pin the blame on one person.
However the key word was evolution, rather than wholesale change. We do seem to have thrown the baby out with the bath water.
RE: Ange - Username - 09-10-2025
(09-10-2025, 01:12 PM)DeesideRed Wrote:(09-10-2025, 11:10 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote:(09-10-2025, 10:47 AM)DeesideRed Wrote:(09-10-2025, 10:43 AM)The reds Wrote: I didn’t want Ange in charge but as long as he is still head coach I will support him and the team. You never know a win against Chelsea could spark us into life.
Exactly, i dont think most of us are sitting wait to go 'I told you so!'. Its more that its hard to see how this appointment works out, particularly if he does indeed ignore set-pieces in a season where they're becoming key.
My issue is that, beyond the odd spell like in the first half against Betis, we haven't seen much evidence of improvement. And worse than that the defence has now regressed to as bad as it was when Nuno first took over.
At the moment it's hard to know where the next win will come from. At least under Nuno we had a clear identity. The football might not have been exhilarating but it was (for most of last season anyway) effective. Under Ange right now it's neither. Such a diametric change in playing style means the appointment should've been done at the end of last season - not partway into this one.
Or... Taken into account Nuno's position became untenable, you recruit a coach of similar ilk, or at the very least not diametrically opposite
Surely everyone agree that maintaining the same level of football from last year was unsustainable? So change of some form was unavoidable?
RE: Ange - Superreddamo - 09-10-2025
We were found out last season by the end. Zero issue with changing style, issue is the coach who is doing it. The guy is hopeless and needs to go, just look at the way we set up for corners, he is an error repeater that will take us down
RE: Ange - DeesideRed - 09-10-2025
(09-10-2025, 03:58 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(09-10-2025, 03:34 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:(09-10-2025, 03:31 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: The club wanted to change the playing style and worked on it during the summer before Ange came.
The owner
And others including senior players if we want to have it out in the open.
Do you think the players enjoyed those tactics at the end of last season?
They didn't.
Aye Wood must have hated scoring all those goals, Elanga having best season. This is nonsense (in my opinion).
RE: Ange - pennhillred - 09-10-2025
We absolutely needed to be able to mix things up, and having different options was the right move.
But I wonder if there’s a single player enjoying the tactics now.
RE: Ange - Username - 09-10-2025
(09-10-2025, 07:16 PM)DeesideRed Wrote:(09-10-2025, 03:58 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(09-10-2025, 03:34 PM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:(09-10-2025, 03:31 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: The club wanted to change the playing style and worked on it during the summer before Ange came.
The owner
And others including senior players if we want to have it out in the open.
Do you think the players enjoyed those tactics at the end of last season?
They didn't.
Aye Wood must have hated scoring all those goals, Elanga having best season. This is nonsense (in my opinion).
He said “at the end of last season”?
RE: Ange - DR Forest - 09-10-2025
Evolution not Revolution.
RE: Ange - DeesideRed - 10-10-2025
Given we like them out of work... Adi Hütter is now available....
RE: Ange - northeastred - 10-10-2025
Ange given 4 days off to go to Australia to do talks at a coaching convention, clearly not getting the sack, and given 4 days off by his pal EM
RE: Ange - Salvatore Matrecano - 10-10-2025
(10-10-2025, 07:52 AM)northeastred Wrote: Ange given 4 days off to go to Australia to do talks at a coaching convention, clearly not getting the sack, and given 4 days off by his pal EM
The article you have quoted states Ange joined for one session virtually. Therefore he is still in Nottingham and has never left.
Again seems like you are inventing stuff to suit your agenda.