(09-01-2023, 07:51 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: Tweet from John Percy back in September 2021 certainly suggests he was Dane's number 1 pick!

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1440072346220384257?t=sFOpDBIXGxpuYpyRO-46bA&s=19

(09-01-2023, 06:39 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(09-01-2023, 06:32 PM)Paplane Wrote: Regardless of who wanted who out, Cooper's position was in a perilous state after the Leicester game. The side were getting worse rather than better and from my eyes, Cooper didnt have a clue. We were wide open and getting stuffed every week. It was right for his position to be questioned, at that time.

I disagree completely actually, was like 8 games into the season and we'd played Man City, Spurs, Newcastle in that run too. Cooper's job should never have been under threat so early and surely what has happened since then has proven that? It's pretty much exactly as you would've predicted, in that he eventually found a formation/lineup that was consistent and new players have begun to show improvement and that they are more settled.

How can you go from going up to sacking a guy 8 games later?! Crazy.

I said to someone the other day that the news that Cooper had signed a new deal felt as good as getting promoted when it came out. 

You can be critical of his methods and odd selections (although Taiwo out side doesn't look so stupid now!) however that doesn't mean the need to get rid of him. 

According to some sources it appears Dane was in your camp!

(09-01-2023, 08:44 PM)Paplane Wrote: Apart from a few greats in the game like Cloughy, Ferguson etc, I happen to believe that one single person is very rarely responsible for the entire sucess any club might be enjoying.  So be it, Murphy, Cooper, Marinakis or anyone else for that matter, my view is always that sucess is earned by everyone pulling in the same direction and the club functioning at a level greater than its parts. Thats why Ive never been overly critical of Marinakis amd Vrentzos when they were getting flack and never joined thr Murphy bandwagon when he was considered to be the second coming. Its the same with Cooper. I like the bloke a lot but he's not bigger than the club. And he would possibly concede privately he got a lot of things wrong at the beginning of this season.

(09-01-2023, 09:00 PM)TrickySte Wrote: He has definitely rubbed a few people up the wrong way but I heard completely the opposite re. Brennan. Junior had essentially agreed a deal with Brentford prior to the deadline before Dane, Cooper went directly to EM who then knocked it bacl

I reckon Giraldi's biggest job is keeping Ioannis & his book of transfer contacts well away.

(09-01-2023, 09:03 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(09-01-2023, 08:44 PM)Paplane Wrote: Apart from a few greats in the game like Cloughy, Ferguson etc, I happen to believe that one single person is very rarely responsible for the entire sucess any club might be enjoying.  So be it, Murphy, Cooper, Marinakis or anyone else for that matter, my view is always that sucess is earned by everyone pulling in the same direction and the club functioning at a level greater than its parts. Thats why Ive never been overly critical of Marinakis amd Vrentzos when they were getting flack and never joined thr Murphy bandwagon when he was considered to be the second coming. Its the same with Cooper. I like the bloke a lot but he's not bigger than the club. And he would possibly concede privately he got a lot of things wrong at the beginning of this season.

I think you're missing the point, him getting a lot of things wrong is built into the process of gelling a new squad. It was always going to be a learn on the job situation as the majority of the players had not played at this level. Part of the effect of "gelling a squad" is learning your best system/starting 11 which was always going to be tricky when you had 15-20 new players plus the guys you weren't sure whether they could step up. Could he have got to this current setup quicker, perhaps. However, perhaps the team would not have found it's current level without the experience and learnings of what went wrong in the early games and therefore where the tactics needed to focus to be effective with this squad. All these things take time and experience, one bad result does not make a season. 

Cooper is not bigger than the club but that doesn't mean he isn't massively in credit with the job that he's done. It's completely unrealistic to expect continual improvement in anything. If it wasn't for how bad we were in games 1-8 last year, I'd of said this season's achievement so far is greater, that's how much the odds were stacked against us. I just think you're missing how incredibly difficult this was going to be for so many reasons.

(09-01-2023, 09:34 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: We will never know will we… the truth will lie somewhere in the middle - More worrying is the stories doing the round about Gary Brazil going at the end of the season…

(09-01-2023, 01:27 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(09-01-2023, 12:54 PM)DR Forest Wrote: So much for him being in the states trying to get Dennis and uwang clubs….

Who said he was in the states?

I said he was trying to find Dennis and Hwang clubs in MLS and he was but I repeat who said he was in the states?

I'll wait...

Why does someone always feel the need to have a pop?

I was right all along about Dane being on borrowed time despite getting dogs abuse for saying it and still some continue with the cheap shots.

So can you put a link up where I said that Dane was in the states to back up what you are implying.