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RE: Our Goalkeepers - nffc93 - 16-12-2023
I think Turner was at fault for both goals. Maybe harsh on thr first. Unfortunately we've spunked money on two duds. I don't see anything from either of them that fills with much confidence.
We are going to have to use the loan market for a top keeper in Jan.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Hyperkoi - 16-12-2023
Samba would have either punched the ball or richarlison, either way he would not have sat on his line like a scarecrow. The second exposed his big weakness.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - nffc93 - 16-12-2023
(16-12-2023, 08:43 AM)Hyperkoi Wrote: Samba would have either punched the ball or richarlison, either way he would not have sat on his line like a scarecrow. The second exposed his big weakness.
I didn't want to keep bringing up his name but you are rightm Samba deals with both situations differently.
If we still had him in the sticks things would he different.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Salvatore Matrecano - 16-12-2023
Need to let Samba go.
Don’t blame Turner for 1st goal, it was a wicked cross and a top class finish.
The second, said from day 1 he is too slow with the ball at his feet. Always wants an extra touch, nearly got caught 1st half too. Shame because rest of his game is ok.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023
I am not sure what Vlachodimos has done wrong.
I don't remember him making any glaring errors like Turner has.
Okay he conceded 5 at Fulham but I also remember Henderson conceding 4 and 5 on a few occasions last season but he was very well liked.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Paplane - 16-12-2023
(16-12-2023, 09:22 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I am not sure what Vlachodimos has done wrong.
I don't remember him making any glaring errors like Turner has.
Okay he conceded 5 at Fulham but I also remember Henderson conceding 4 and 5 on a few occasions last season but he was very well liked.
Henderson and Navas were a mile away from this pair Sniff. How we've ended up with the keepers we have after having that quality is criminal really.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023
(16-12-2023, 09:29 AM)Paplane Wrote:(16-12-2023, 09:22 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I am not sure what Vlachodimos has done wrong.
I don't remember him making any glaring errors like Turner has.
Okay he conceded 5 at Fulham but I also remember Henderson conceding 4 and 5 on a few occasions last season but he was very well liked.
Henderson and Navas were a mile away from this pair Sniff. How we've ended up with the keepers we have after having that quality is criminal really.
With respect Pap I disagree and I think Vlachodimos is being written off far too early.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Paplane - 16-12-2023
(16-12-2023, 09:34 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(16-12-2023, 09:29 AM)Paplane Wrote:(16-12-2023, 09:22 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I am not sure what Vlachodimos has done wrong.
I don't remember him making any glaring errors like Turner has.
Okay he conceded 5 at Fulham but I also remember Henderson conceding 4 and 5 on a few occasions last season but he was very well liked.
Henderson and Navas were a mile away from this pair Sniff. How we've ended up with the keepers we have after having that quality is criminal really.
With respect Pap I disagree and I think Vlachodimos is being written off far too early.
He came in and contributed absolutely nothing Sniff. He put in vanilla performances that had zero impact while at the same time conceding goals. He looks no better than the bunch of average keepers we've had in the championship over the last 20 years. Henderson let in goals early last season but he was inspirational and oozed self confidence. None of this seasons keepers have that.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023
Can we give him more time he hasn't been here 5 minutes and he got chucked in to a team conceding goals, playing shit and losing every week. He is also in a new country, a new club and a new league etc.
Samba made howlers, Henderson and Turner too. I don't think Vlachodimos has made one yet. To be fair he hasn't pulled off any world class saves either.
I think if we were winning games this wouldn't be an issue but when we are losing every week then the goalkeeper will get exposed and put in the spotlight.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Salvatore Matrecano - 16-12-2023
Turner has played 12 games, faced 63 shots and conceded 19 goals = 70% saved
Ody has played 5 games, faced 23 shots and conceded 12 goals = 48% saved
There are other stats too such as expected goals prevented, not sure how much they mean but Turner comes out lower mid table, Ody near the bottom of PL keepers. Make of it what you will.
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 16-12-2023
(16-12-2023, 10:16 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Turner has played 12 games, faced 63 shots and conceded 19 goals = 70% saved
Ody has played 5 games, faced 23 shots and conceded 12 goals = 48% saved
There are other stats too such as expected goals prevented, not sure how much they mean but Turner comes out lower mid table, Ody near the bottom of PL keepers. Make of it what you will.
Ah the good old stats.
So seeing as you have used stats to try to make your point (I prefer my eyes).
What do the PL stats say about our coach who is supposedly so great?
RE: Our Goalkeepers - Username - 16-12-2023
(16-12-2023, 10:16 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Turner has played 12 games, faced 63 shots and conceded 19 goals = 70% saved
Ody has played 5 games, faced 23 shots and conceded 12 goals = 48% saved
There are other stats too such as expected goals prevented, not sure how much they mean but Turner comes out lower mid table, Ody near the bottom of PL keepers. Make of it what you will.
It’s a fair point albeit I think when Turner has played we have mostly been setup more defensively and against lower teams compared to Oddy. Those facts are important and unfortunately the Fulham game will clearly blur the picture.
I personally don’t think five games was enough to judge Oddy.
It was clear after two that Turner has gaping weaknesses that would get exposed at this level.