(19-12-2023, 02:23 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: Get this f****r in your diary...

If Nuno takes us down I will walk across Trent Bridge wearing nothing but a pair of Derby County undercrackers at the first home game back in the Championship.

(19-12-2023, 12:46 PM)Marco Polo Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:35 PM)Forest1970 Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:16 PM)Marco Polo Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:11 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:04 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: It was more that the ownership have a TERRIBLE track record in choosing owners and recruitment at this club. Cooper somehow stabilised it all despite all the madness. We’re back to the chaos. Make my words

None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you?  Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?

you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so

No I don't think we're missing your point. Everything thats going wrong is the owners fault and the whole place was a shower of shite before Cooper came in. Have you forgot how much shite Fatwaz left the place in when he left and you must realize it was never going to be a 5 minute fix for EM. Did Fatwaz put the kind of money in like the big man has to sort the club out and the answer is a big fat NO so you can't keep blaming the owner. I don't say this lightly but its the coaches job to get the players to do their job and unfortunately Cooper isn't doing that so the obvious thing to do is get rid of and get someone in who has different ideas. Simples ain't it  ::

Simples.

I’ll be back when we’re in the championship and ask you how simple it is.

No one can question the money he’s put in. But from what everyone says it’s absolute chaos. Just saying we’re back to the revolving door of managers now. Hope you’re ready for it

(19-12-2023, 02:56 PM)ormerdonkey Wrote: Percy in Telegraph reporting it now

(19-12-2023, 02:55 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:46 PM)Marco Polo Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:35 PM)Forest1970 Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:16 PM)Marco Polo Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:11 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote: None of us know for sure how it will go if we stick with Cooper or twist and try another manager. So equally if we stick with Cooper and get relegated shall those who think a change is sadly now needed come on and say told you so to you?  Not saying everything has been or is perfect with this ownership but if you feel you could do better then perhaps you should buy EM out and take over?

you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so

No I don't think we're missing your point. Everything thats going wrong is the owners fault and the whole place was a shower of shite before Cooper came in. Have you forgot how much shite Fatwaz left the place in when he left and you must realize it was never going to be a 5 minute fix for EM. Did Fatwaz put the kind of money in like the big man has to sort the club out and the answer is a big fat NO so you can't keep blaming the owner. I don't say this lightly but its the coaches job to get the players to do their job and unfortunately Cooper isn't doing that so the obvious thing to do is get rid of and get someone in who has different ideas. Simples ain't it  ::

Simples.

I’ll be back when we’re in the championship and ask you how simple it is.

No one can question the money he’s put in. But from what everyone says it’s absolute chaos. Just saying we’re back to the revolving door of managers now. Hope you’re ready for it

Why the notion that we will have a revolving door of managers? Do you not think Marinakis has shown patience with Cooper and to some extent Hughton and Lamouchi beforehand? I think it was around May 17 Marinakis bought the club and since then (excluding caretakers) we’ve had I think 6 managers;

Warburton - no plan b and fans wanted him gone
Karanka - fall out behind the scenes
MoN - fans hated his style and wanted gone
Lamouchi - started the revival and good times but sadly things never the same after the Stoke capitulation despite being given a chance
Hughton - many thought a good appointment but less said the better
Cooper 

I don’t think given where we were, what we were trying to achieve and what results we were seeing that is too bad and for at least 4 of those managers fans were calling for a change.

(19-12-2023, 03:19 PM)Marco Polo Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 02:55 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:46 PM)Marco Polo Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:35 PM)Forest1970 Wrote:

(19-12-2023, 12:16 PM)Marco Polo Wrote: you're missing my point - I agree its time for a change. But I think we've all forgotten how chaotic it is under EM. I'm just saying, Cooper papered over a lot of cracks that I think will now reappear. For that i'll say I told you so

No I don't think we're missing your point. Everything thats going wrong is the owners fault and the whole place was a shower of shite before Cooper came in. Have you forgot how much shite Fatwaz left the place in when he left and you must realize it was never going to be a 5 minute fix for EM. Did Fatwaz put the kind of money in like the big man has to sort the club out and the answer is a big fat NO so you can't keep blaming the owner. I don't say this lightly but its the coaches job to get the players to do their job and unfortunately Cooper isn't doing that so the obvious thing to do is get rid of and get someone in who has different ideas. Simples ain't it  ::

Simples.

I’ll be back when we’re in the championship and ask you how simple it is.

No one can question the money he’s put in. But from what everyone says it’s absolute chaos. Just saying we’re back to the revolving door of managers now. Hope you’re ready for it

Why the notion that we will have a revolving door of managers? Do you not think Marinakis has shown patience with Cooper and to some extent Hughton and Lamouchi beforehand? I think it was around May 17 Marinakis bought the club and since then (excluding caretakers) we’ve had I think 6 managers;

Warburton - no plan b and fans wanted him gone
Karanka - fall out behind the scenes
MoN - fans hated his style and wanted gone
Lamouchi - started the revival and good times but sadly things never the same after the Stoke capitulation despite being given a chance
Hughton - many thought a good appointment but less said the better
Cooper 

I don’t think given where we were, what we were trying to achieve and what results we were seeing that is too bad and for at least 4 of those managers fans were calling for a change.

the fans wanted them gone because they were terrible. terrible choices. 

how many recruitment teams have we had?
how many players have we had?
how many CEO/director of footballs have we had? 
who even is our chief now?

its a circus that was tamed by steve cooper. YEs he needed to move on, but we won't find another that can do it.

(19-12-2023, 03:27 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: I’ve tried to catch up with thread but there’s so much to read! All I want to know is we had the game Friday why wait till Tuesday, will nuno be signed and sealed for training tomorrow morning?

(19-12-2023, 03:27 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: I’ve tried to catch up with thread but there’s so much to read! All I want to know is we had the game Friday why wait till Tuesday, will nuno be signed and sealed for training tomorrow morning?