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RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 04-09-2020

(04-09-2020, 11:43 AM)Sausage Roll Wrote: There was a bit of annoyance on here when the story about us signing Guerrero broke, which may or may not have subsided a bit now it's come out that this is Sabri's choice - a player that he identified after that friendly vs. Olympiakos before last season. Some fans want us to buy cheap and sell dear, investing in young prospects, developing them then selling them on, and yes that sounds like a good business model. But would that get us promoted? Brentford, for all the praise they receive, haven't gone up. Same with Peterborough.

If Sabri is signing players that Sabri wants - as is reportedly the case with Guerrero and Bachirou - then should we not be happy with that? Surely it's better than when, say, 'Billy Davies' signed the likes of Djamel Abdoun, a player that never seemed to fit his profile.

Look at the players we've brought in this season so far (assuming Guerrero signs): Colback, Blackett, Taylor, Bachirou, Freeman and Guerrero. Most of them with Championship experience and the other two with experience in other top-flights and Europe. Was our team not crying out for this?  How many points might have been saved last season with a few more older heads on the pitch? How many late goals might have been avoided?

In an ideal world of course we'd look long-term and buy young, develop and either keep or sell on, but Sabri doesn't have that luxury. His remit is promotion and it seems he's identified a lack of characters and experience as one of the reasons he didn't achieve it last season. OK, you can make the point that it's a very short-term strategy from the ownership, and it is. But that's what Sabri's got to work with and I think the recruitment this season reflects that. Have any clubs got promoted from the Championship with squads they've bought young and developed? I genuinely don't know.

Last season.  In a nutshell.

And why this season.  Won't be like last season.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Salvatore Matrecano - 04-09-2020

I have no problem with any of the players individually, they have each been bought in with a specific role in mind, all are proven in respective leagues, all on modest or no fees, cannot complain.

The only issue is collectively we are not investing in youth, the average age of the squad will be much higher and as has been said very little sell on opportunity so if we do need FFP help this time next year it will yet again be up to the academy to provide it.

Colback 30
Taylor 30
Bachirou 30
Guerrero 30
Freeman 28
Blackett 26

Experience fine, but ideally would have preferred more of a blend.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Sabricadabra - 04-09-2020

26 is peak time.

Personally I prefer a more experienced team because they’re more likely to win you games of football. Though we do have young players like Worrall, Ribeiro, Mighten, Yates and Johnson coming through.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - optimistic_red - 04-09-2020

The plan is for promotion. If we don't get promotion its likely that the manager will be changed, and a large part of the squad. If we do get promotion, the squad will be added to for life in the Prem.

Us fans are here year after year, so its natural we want young talent (ideally home grown), but managers are not given time, it is not in there interest to develop talent, they need results now or they will be gone.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Sabricadabra - 04-09-2020

I don’t care much about young talent, or where the players come from, but I am sick of watching second division football and following a club who are increasingly irrelevant and cash strapped.

We’ve been stuck in this second rate league for 21 years now and the longer we are outside the money tent the harder it is to get inside. After going so close last season it would be criminal to do anything other than target promotion again next season.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 04-09-2020

(04-09-2020, 03:01 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: I have no problem with any of the players individually, they have each been bought in with a specific role in mind, all are proven in respective leagues, all on modest or no fees, cannot complain.

The only issue is collectively we are not investing in youth, the average age of the squad will be much higher and as has been said very little sell on opportunity so if we do need FFP help this time next year it will yet again be up to the academy to provide it.

Colback 30
Taylor 30
Bachirou 30
Guerrero 30
Freeman 28
Blackett 26

Experience fine, but ideally would have preferred more of a blend.

They're the right side of 31.

The 30s are the right age and plenty experienced for the positions they're in. Two years to do something with that lot...before the Coach and they are sacked if they don't get promoted.

Forest were a bit green, a bit young last season.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 04-09-2020

So the club's strategy is clearly to sign more experienced players. Robust players who are tough but can play a bit.

All along the spine fo the side to add depth of quality.

Clear upgrades. And not past their sell by date either.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 04-09-2020

"“Basically, they’ve actually taken the view to keep him on, they’ve brought him over to Greece, they’ve argued about certain things, they’ve agreed on certain things, I think he’s now getting more of a say in transfer recruitment than he was.

“There’s been some changes in the backroom staff and they’ve been bringing in more experienced Championship-type players, rather than going with young, Portuguese kids who, really, apart from some glimpses of talent, haven’t really been promotion material."

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 04-09-2020

That's their transfer policy.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 05-09-2020

"Analysis: 'Forest need to be able to change games'

Colin Fray, BBC Radio Nottingham's Forest correspondent

"One of Forest's failings last season was a lack of strength in depth, and a lack of options when needing to change a game. Their transfer policy this summer has been centred around changing that, and so giving Sabri Lamouchi more options.

"They'd also like to add to their goals tally from last season. Lewis Grabban apart, goals were at a premium, and all too often, they found themselves defending a one goal lead late on. All too often, they conceded, and dropped points.

"The additions of Lyle Taylor, Luke Freeman, and now Guerrero, should add more goals, and certainly give Lamouchi more options before and during games."

Well said that man. From BBC Radio Nottingham's Forest page.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Strawberry Avenger - 05-09-2020

And that's their transfer policy.

SA.


RE: What Is The Clubs Transfer Strategy - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 12-09-2020

(04-09-2020, 03:01 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: I have no problem with any of the players individually, they have each been bought in with a specific role in mind, all are proven in respective leagues, all on modest or no fees, cannot complain.

The only issue is collectively we are not investing in youth.

Soh, McGuane, Larsson.

We have a strategy and a vision.